From lojban+bncCK7Yk5CUCxDorIDmBBoEKu2nsQ@googlegroups.com Thu Oct 21 03:31:24 2010 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P8sQY-0000sJ-4l; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 03:31:24 -0700 Received: by qyk33 with SMTP id 33sf4042818qyk.16 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 03:31:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=iZqJV89+iaQ6YZ+eMvT+A+cQaXxOjNRZiXcTxNpIct0=; b=qisq7aYMJACt2Wm0Rok5nwV7X288Pwm6Vithr1H7zNXkeZSG68IxOZIGiAXUQQ7Xqk 1zmDjWYq/RtarsqVAJsWIEDGvVfgRwsdOkKMMMaMfPKjwH9y6hZO+s2Dk1CGsgCIu43Q QunIATgO5nDa/qQAH6QrACY1wWDhHzhzF21ZQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=tuG2J/J0Ph3RZVJ+yas9PmT4tjRAjmawAjHlhuAdkaqprRIxQ8Urk/W2v2AI4QBFQd FOTrbB4iDfAk2FRUzSRCXZpUFzsx/aXDEdqTgmGPc3e2W1ERHemPyJhT6PJXVX3zYZwb /XCtNvzoVH6roBNnVqJsIXq6yN9dra83B2ck4= Received: by 10.229.2.151 with SMTP id 23mr36625qcj.36.1287657064885; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 03:31:04 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.80.196 with SMTP id u4ls131037qck.0.p; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 03:31:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.182.3 with SMTP id ca3mr104176qcb.24.1287657064162; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 03:31:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.182.3 with SMTP id ca3mr104174qcb.24.1287657064095; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 03:31:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qw0-f46.google.com (mail-qw0-f46.google.com [209.85.216.46]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id j6si721672qcu.10.2010.10.21.03.31.03; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 03:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.46; Received: by mail-qw0-f46.google.com with SMTP id 26so3316336qwa.19 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 03:31:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.239.129 with SMTP id kw1mr628926qcb.90.1287657062990; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 03:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.189.67 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 03:31:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6f0fa747-f427-409b-8393-9d7a5ce8a367@o23g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 12:31:02 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: comics From: Remo Dentato To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Lindar wrote: > I just did in my last post. > > ko'a pixra lo lisri be ko'e bei vo'i bei ko'o be'o ku ko'i ko'u vau > > In English, x1 is a comic about x2 by x3 for x4 in medium x5. > I thought you meant something like: lisxra x1=l1=p1 is a comics about x2=l2 by x3=l3=p3 to audience x4=l4 on medium x5=p4 {lisri} {pixra} to show how sumti were related. Anyway, I fully agree on the sumti positions. I don't really understand the relationship between a lujvo and the "underlying tanru". I should read CLL again (and agan, and again, ...). In this case I don't think the tanru should be {lisri pixra} but rather {lisri co pixra}. A comics is first of all a story which, secondarily, is narrated by images. I guess we can drop the rafsi for {co} in the lujvo, can we? If I understand what you mean the lojban defintion should be ko'a lisri ko'e ko'i ko'o sep'io lo pixra zi'o vo'i ko'u Not sure if i have to use {zo'e} or {zi'o} to indicate that x2 of pixra is not used. I put {zi'o} but I be mistaken. remo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.