From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCj_YfmBBoEl7QyIg@googlegroups.com Fri Oct 22 14:14:26 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P9OwR-0007to-Io; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:14:26 -0700 Received: by gyd5 with SMTP id 5sf1390042gyd.16 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:14:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=jQQUbOt0O9R/WJEQ3sPZ9OyTGp0dz9TSN2WIzaw+fYA=; b=MOVS8BACAQRRHGOqYgkbyKBhz1bVy32J4TST2tiKzyLDifNvLW3pFs5PB0MPsHrplY /BfP0dkoMBVFatsTDbNHqafTe5sv+xJseIjCsOOxtzEol9EVFcQUcqwlMKKRyPHGln/B 3sKCvgDx8uFO8E6rE4wXpaAHEHv0+yPnbAW+Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=idAjOjuPUTKmUzGOHzO7RYqD+cYEXGFPaQfVcDZJCXYX4kJrK5dRS7ZEM11kEoNio5 HzMtbGO++Y4U4x6SeQJfQJzxVrRm9xqTWqsrLXagfKNchskFamEdqagEwdLx5t8gFpYn qtxLZbaPS8GBxSwQ428dCTLL7asY2uRZpdNcI= Received: by 10.101.125.16 with SMTP id c16mr143843ann.37.1287782051241; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:14:11 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.123.203 with SMTP id q11ls1833779ibr.2.p; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:14:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.39.129 with SMTP id g1mr227163ibe.17.1287782050258; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:14:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.39.129 with SMTP id g1mr227162ibe.17.1287782050187; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:14:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f180.google.com (mail-iw0-f180.google.com [209.85.214.180]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id b32si2148825ibq.1.2010.10.22.14.14.09; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.180 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.180; Received: by mail-iw0-f180.google.com with SMTP id 37so1434880iwn.39 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:14:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.14.135 with SMTP id g7mr3123885iba.106.1287782049066; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.149.14 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:14:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 17:14:08 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] mistakes From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.180 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00221534d6cb95385004933b1f65 --00221534d6cb95385004933b1f65 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 When I say "in most circumstances" I mean "all those circumstances where people are talking about drinking alcoholic beverages (excluding birje and probably a few others =p)" On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 7:07 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: > >> I see. The youth of the language makes it more un-stable. That makes >> sense. I was mostly talking about rapid-fire conversation (i.e. informal >> and not necessarily having many listeners). >> >> Another example of this kind of snowballing thing. {xalka}. I've seen it >> used a few times and so have used it myself in places like {.ui mi pinxe lo >> mutce xalka .uisai}, completely unaware of the existence of {jikru} which >> seems far more appropriate in most circumstances. >> > > I think the purpose of xalka is for medical alcohol, or just alcohol in > general, as opposed to just drinking alcohol. jikru obviously can't be used > for for rubbing alcohol. > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu > do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --00221534d6cb95385004933b1f65 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When I say "in most circumstances" I mean "all those circums= tances where people are talking about drinking alcoholic beverages (excludi= ng birje and probably a few others =3Dp)"

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 a= t 7:07 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
I see. =A0The youth of the language makes it more un-stable. =A0That makes = sense. =A0I was mostly talking about rapid-fire conversation (i.e. informal= and not necessarily having many listeners).

Another exa= mple of this kind of snowballing thing. =A0{xalka}. =A0I've seen it use= d a few times and so have used it myself in places like {.ui mi pinxe lo mu= tce xalka .uisai}, completely unaware of the existence of {jikru} which see= ms far more appropriate in most circumstances.

I think the purpose of xalka is for medical al= cohol, or just alcohol in general, as opposed to just drinking alcohol. jik= ru obviously can't be used for for rubbing alcohol.

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(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D= )

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