From lojban+bncCICntNPQBRCBvYjmBBoE_LzAbg@googlegroups.com Fri Oct 22 16:30:24 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P9R40-0007kQ-Tz; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 16:30:24 -0700 Received: by yxe42 with SMTP id 42sf1534571yxe.16 for ; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 16:30:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:mime-version :received:received:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qPEVP0JcBKZIfFj2Ex3SnnLHpUc+8WoGAFk/UsIqtwQ=; b=dRiybZvNo+FGwAkBFNDnKGKPqHfnnccy4V1KSuI30ivBwY/T/2DYolbsjmx5m74sF5 a1bsF3eiXxyTR3E1jnTWbdTlhU22H1lGD3Pey+SgRDZAScQ340+6APUh5T6ke0tX2EyA cuJ9zYG7mH72GTeDMPSyK+SbxB6uCvMGMYMfU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=u6jzheZDka0bUBbnmwIr+6+frvkkZQlMFtfPEJo0Cb5JoBlNxDfc0WfeZ6F2VI8h5v M2ZPi/M43BnTkH5ak7ItL0zcRe8zM8fYEgx8FL70QE3n6pBd+eyfdrgtdNTyLQBoNKVJ Y5jtWzsdpHmp1fmy3va1Yv6mIA4Rl62kiMZQM= Received: by 10.90.95.7 with SMTP id s7mr232319agb.18.1287790209394; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 16:30:09 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.91.196.38 with SMTP id y38ls487383agp.0.p; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 16:30:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.103.12 with SMTP id a12mr243115agc.59.1287790208801; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 16:30:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by g4g2000prj.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Fri, 22 Oct 2010 16:30:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 16:30:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 166.134.181.254 References: <8832676c-b69c-40d6-bead-b2363df50577@x4g2000pre.googlegroups.com> <68ed33b3-7a17-4347-a25d-fd310520acf9@z17g2000prz.googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.11) Gecko/20101013 Ubuntu/10.04 (lucid) Firefox/3.6.11,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Re: comics From: Lindar To: lojban X-Original-Sender: lindarthebard@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable TIME FOR SOME AGREEING!! On Oct 21, 10:06=A0pm, Luke Bergen wrote: > Yes, I know. =A0I just enjoy ribbing lindar about places were cu is bette= r. > =A0Similar to how he enjoys pointing out errors that he ascribes to an ov= eruse > of cu where terminators would have worked "better" ;) At this point I think it's two halves of the culture poking fun. We have different dialects. I think it is very clever to have dropped the end-quote, but it sounds very strange to me. > All in good fun. Oh most definitely. > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Jameson Orndorff = wrote: > > > Luke, despite what Lindar constantly babbles on about, our method does > > NOT shun {cu}. It never has. It never will. (Or at least, I never > > will.) We just teach it later. We teach it, in my mind, better, > > because we don't teach it like a crutch. We put terminator as the > > emphasis, with {cu} mentioned as a tool that can be used, instead of > > vise versa. I think it promotes a stronger fundamental knowledge of > > when terminators are needed. Ehm, I've resigned that argument. It's a dialectal thing. It's most definitely better to do what you're describing (cu later as a tool not a crutch), and I'm not going to knock anybody for nonfa'orma'o selsku. We've got two major dialects with several sub- dialects all evolving at once. Some people gravitate to {ca ku mi broda} instead of {mi ca broda}, some use fa'orma'o and others don't, and so on. It's lovely seeing how in a single set of grammar we can have dialects. > > And using {cu} to cut out of a quote should be something any competent > > lojbanist can do - kudos to anyone who does it. Seriously. I should have provided praise there as it was very clever, I had just never seen it done before, and it looked strange to me. Major kudos for inventive phrasing in nonfa'orma'orbau. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.