From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCzsZzmBBoEL2rnUw@googlegroups.com Tue Oct 26 11:06:58 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PAnvC-0005as-Jk; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:06:58 -0700 Received: by yxe42 with SMTP id 42sf7685380yxe.16 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:06:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=f7gclCbbCvA2QpBukaiGxSgoQQoCWuQSjazbruTZhhg=; b=xsfW3lwHGUqf2jaLXYh53FL6/GhsmOIjaPnSaCTdFqDS+cETAa9cS9SOIzjrFJlDRM ZjW10AUFHCTiSp6qtBnQuYuM5f2+aQDk1v+Rbwo2q0bAxhplzwseSqA/kWuZZ6OcyyeM iKQLP1fRj6268BrY1HYjN23/jdwu5RjHMW7a0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=oCOwxvAi3yHjCx++1aJWT23j2/4qm2n2mF9vkhqejZZSY6NapF+X7Opr5rJCOVxs7z FTBgFUbB46ibltpw4UeZPOvHLHuuPhpM/Ic8JqgW7xYdzcoAkLDVXQigtSnLiVjqpsqI KrVM43rzSf4FTWa8m58KuVLj5IxAQ0Gn3kjxM= Received: by 10.151.18.29 with SMTP id v29mr1330774ybi.51.1288116403262; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:06:43 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.112.41 with SMTP id u41ls5549616ibp.1.p; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.149.83 with SMTP id s19mr1870887ibv.2.1288116402564; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.149.83 with SMTP id s19mr1870884ibv.2.1288116402533; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f170.google.com (mail-iw0-f170.google.com [209.85.214.170]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id j25si5296399ibb.0.2010.10.26.11.06.41; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.170 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.170; Received: by mail-iw0-f170.google.com with SMTP id 38so981806iwn.15 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:06:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.173.9 with SMTP id n9mr7699658ibz.146.1288116400616; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.149.14 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:06:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:06:40 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] vrici cimei From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364ec7ae7cfd86049388f890 --0016364ec7ae7cfd86049388f890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 So, I was pretty close then. huzzah. So what it's saying is that "it is not only those things which are not donkeys which step only once on thin ice".... so... "donkeys also step only once on thin ice".... On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > Try this translation -- "Not only a non-donkey steps only once on thin > ice". > --gejyspa > > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Luke Bergen > wrote: > > .yyy that's a tricky one. All the negations of your new sig are > confusing > > me. I guess I read it as "the not uniquely not donkey only once steps on > > thin ice" -> "many things that are not donkeys step only once on thin > > ice".... is that close? > > > > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Michael Turniansky < > mturniansky@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> pamai .i xu ca zasti fa lo valsi be lu karda fi lo se korbi co rufsu > >> li'u be'o noi panra zoi gy. flake gy. .i va'o lo da'i nu go'i kei ma > >> du le valsi .i va'o lo da'i nu go'e e'u ko finti to zo rufkoikarda pei > >> toi > >> > >> .i remai .i si'a xu cu zasti fa lo valsi be lu ko'a ckaji lo dukse be > >> ko'e gi'e na'e kakne lo nu zukte ko'i kei ki'u dy li'u .i mu'a to mi > >> basygau zo broda lo selcpe valsi toi mi broda lo ka plana kei lo nu > >> pagre lo vorme .i lo bersa be mi broda lo ka lazni kei lo nu lumci lo > >> palta > >> > >> .i cimai ko zgana da'e noi cnita lo cmene be mi .i mi jdice lo du'u > >> lu lo na'e broda ku po'onai brode li'u cu xamgu xelfanva zoi gy. > >> "Even a broda brodes" gy. fi'o veljinvi lo du'u lo stura cu jai te > >> basna lo du'u lo broda cu ge cmima gi setese jimte lo'i kakne be lo > >> nu brode .i do jinvi ma > >> > >> > >> --gejyspa > >> > >> lo po'onai na'e xasli papo'oroi stapa lo cinla bisli > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "lojban" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > >> > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0016364ec7ae7cfd86049388f890 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So, I was pretty close then. =A0huzzah. =A0So what it's saying is that = "it is not only those things which are not donkeys which step only onc= e on thin ice".... so... "donkeys also step only once on thin ice= "....

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Michael Tur= niansky <mtur= niansky@gmail.com> wrote:
Try this translation -- "Not only a non-donkey steps only once on thin= ice".
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa


On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> .yyy that's a tricky one. =A0All the negations of your new sig are= confusing
> me. =A0I guess I read it as "the not uniquely not donkey only onc= e steps on
> thin ice" -> "many things that are not donkeys step only = once on thin
> ice".... is that close?
>
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> pamai .i xu ca zasti fa lo valsi be lu=A0karda fi lo se korbi co r= ufsu
>> li'u be'o noi=A0panra zoi gy. flake gy. .i va'o lo da&= #39;i nu go'i kei ma
>> du le valsi=A0.i va'o lo da'i nu go'e e'u ko finti= to zo rufkoikarda pei
>> toi
>>
>> .i remai .i si'a xu cu zasti fa lo valsi be lu ko'a ckaji = lo dukse be
>> ko'e gi'e na'e kakne lo nu zukte ko'i kei ki'u= dy li'u .i mu'a to mi
>> basygau zo broda lo selcpe valsi toi mi broda lo ka plana kei lo n= u
>> pagre lo vorme .i lo bersa be mi broda lo ka lazni kei lo nu lumci= lo
>> palta
>>
>> .i cimai ko zgana =A0da'e noi cnita lo cmene be mi .i mi jdice= lo du'u
>> lu =A0lo na'e =A0broda ku po'onai =A0brode =A0li'u cu = xamgu xelfanva zoi gy.
>> "Even a broda brodes" gy. fi'o veljinvi lo du'u = lo stura cu jai te
>> basna lo du'u lo broda cu ge cmima gi setese jimte =A0lo'i= kakne be lo
>> nu brode .i do jinvi ma
>>
>>
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa
>>
>> =A0lo po'onai na'e xasli papo'oroi stapa lo cinla bisl= i
>>
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