From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxDFz5zmBBoEaOLQHQ@googlegroups.com Tue Oct 26 12:11:21 2010 Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PAovR-00016h-Fj; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:11:21 -0700 Received: by pwi7 with SMTP id 7sf1555503pwi.16 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:11:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=mYUG9yux8/0+mENGrqR/skdezgXKKH0Lgt60BscgPqA=; b=FK3VFLKSq1yqFXx1COEL/j0l0hwVnCvUcYNsRcMqxTOhepobWoE2Kq1u9WUTuI9ctI SdcnkS8dM2OAQzc/JTzBvGHUcgzO37MtBY4Db/gZVETt4Lsn37/7X63tNbBL+jkJCtBE z7Fw1lSk/ri+XZYEn0+MLNAxKV7W7yoB7YRZE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=GqU+XLsg+/5qK1vc+QvvLJAFyNtr/ZexUdb+SIhWAQIdmTSXZcWBpxOlsZPIy8GSfj xq+u4JoIvS+HhDGKHPdcU+0zv6OixGsPOdykr+XRTqcvOJz94MpVBsl9DoegieEfB8vE RXAgFYlJWsXtNXQUC4BBGJdJkK89SfoqkxO6Q= Received: by 10.142.149.8 with SMTP id w8mr431416wfd.45.1288120261190; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:11:01 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.2.41 with SMTP id 41ls25548wfb.0.p; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.212.11 with SMTP id k11mr5169258wfg.12.1288120260392; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.212.11 with SMTP id k11mr5169256wfg.12.1288120260362; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id h6si19691244wfj.5.2010.10.26.12.10.59; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.121; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Inhw+Jdt7z1D3BivGPfn2aw54OvUEJw5lAn/booRZkE= c=1 sm=0 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=l4dVUOx1NDLXuXjd9loA:9 a=PMwd4W9Oaed9l50cbt7H0FuJqNwA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:41255] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 04/93-13137-3C727CC4; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 19:10:59 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D8B3EA0 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:10:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] vrici cimei Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:10:49 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201010261510.52220.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 26 October 2010 14:58:35 Michael Turniansky wrote: > (My restatement of) your formulation of "ji'a ro xasli cu papo'oroi > stapa" actually works quite well, actually, to fulfill those > conditions. My concerns had been to show that donkeys AND non-donkeys > do and to emphasize the suprise value of donkeys doing it. I think > your simple "ji'a" handles that well. What about "ji'acai"? That's been suggested for "even" before. Btw, I keep getting "sai" and "cai" confused. Pierre -- Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.