From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCI_armBBoEpCoT9g@googlegroups.com Fri Oct 29 05:31:23 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PBo72-0000LX-Tf; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 05:31:23 -0700 Received: by wyb38 with SMTP id 38sf1737623wyb.16 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 05:31:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EIwEYf2/Oaaz3xcry/5EyOzY88IYiEVxgi+t9CbnzRw=; b=xtuTNx94g8TwFNVJDRCEMWIcgWUTqJiOLqxGVT4T+gBiew5KAc3lLHU0H1lRrBVyxV aQnit8y3lf0SjjEUWlrT9ctbmarR3Z8ltoCxsG6qE8liis7fjKdHLylJCQqly2Fm/e9s RHLeoijaXGs58R03RqnTtRrEjNV27G+lPT0Sw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tlwB0p3D5w4v8xp8k7T5ULW1JWNnLWA/JpD6+yFYKGouRsRY5HnnaCulQpYP+dXhZa ZWynNe1PSiNQPIFk04yqSHRRxbRrxJ4+qTrmJUKeV3K1SF9mWBIyaTQ4a6Ta7HxmOd/p osliFO23EuVFjyBUxvdnQBFIfQKN/WvLJrn4c= Received: by 10.216.237.89 with SMTP id x67mr1785320weq.28.1288355464636; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 05:31:04 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.208.4 with SMTP id p4ls1276842weo.2.p; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 05:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.140.23 with SMTP id d23mr88885wej.1.1288355463419; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 05:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.140.23 with SMTP id d23mr88884wej.1.1288355463381; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 05:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f173.google.com (mail-wy0-f173.google.com [74.125.82.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id l2si704426weq.13.2010.10.29.05.31.02; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 05:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.173; Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so3549324wyj.18 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 05:31:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.132.211 with SMTP id c19mr2676547wbt.226.1288355461918; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 05:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.32.140 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 05:31:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <322766.28658.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <760229.32777.qm@web88003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <322766.28658.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:31:01 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Fw: xagrai and superlatives From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:48 PM, A. PIEKARSKI wrote: >> >> ko'a brodyrai ko'e (ko'i ko'o ko'u ...) >> =3D ko'a traji lo ka ce'u broda (ko'i ko'o ko'u ...) kei zi'o ko'e > > Sorry, I find this way of explaining it confusing.=A0 Can you relate the > ko'a ko'e etc to the places in: > > t1=3Dx1 traji loka xamgu x2 x3 kei t3 t4 What part do you find confusing? It's just ordinary Lojban. The problem with your presentation is that it doesn't tell us anything about the order of the arguments in the lujvo. Are we to assume that they will appear in the lujvo in the same order as they appear in the expansion? If so, then to make it equivalent to mine you would have to write it as: t1=3Dx1 traji fo t4 fe loka xamgu x2 x3 kei (t3=3Dzi'o) mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.