From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRC64qvmBBoESDM4vA@googlegroups.com Fri Oct 29 09:07:36 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PBrUK-0004c7-Ui; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:07:36 -0700 Received: by wyb38 with SMTP id 38sf1848628wyb.16 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:07:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cC5mI1jMQ8+LE6Lt8E4EZ3FG8QhpXIz3+/O7LLEKQFY=; b=Vc7odyj2vCkDG0qGc1DEOmqCu+5y8XsHni9XWXoW0Zps0PrKlYLhgD5agDd2ALjhnp uJihMQBH2OkDJrrsmbw6XxTrF55df4SLOTlY3nwx8POgpmK+WilQjDWE7XQDUm/GLB3l jE1I6cWCL9PWX8SP8HwPhdoU5Qrv9Bq5puyOE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eDbgzD8GDZfpfZYmOkAmUKwgj8OwFFZqMiTQHOFo+heWo0LmcDpradvbEERZlPSqVq D0vRGsODPdR8prZBdZegEr9CBQjFBr1m4Ku88Khxofpc2YKQLj+LhkKkIj2Q8IM5dGCf z/bMOH3H/uj26RLwrmAALPqujsm3pXpNMOF0g= Received: by 10.216.237.83 with SMTP id x61mr1859301weq.18.1288368442430; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:07:22 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.168.134 with SMTP id u6ls1131519wby.1.p; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:07:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.72.210 with SMTP id t60mr101772wed.3.1288368441154; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:07:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.72.210 with SMTP id t60mr101771wed.3.1288368441135; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:07:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f178.google.com (mail-wy0-f178.google.com [74.125.82.178]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id r4si770513wec.14.2010.10.29.09.07.20; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.178 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.178; Received: by mail-wy0-f178.google.com with SMTP id 29so3275800wyb.37 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:07:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.151.194 with SMTP id d2mr2246547wbw.81.1288368439792; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.32.140 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:07:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <299457.18836.qm@web88001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <760229.32777.qm@web88003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <322766.28658.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <299457.18836.qm@web88001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 13:07:19 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Fw: xagrai and superlatives From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.178 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:57 AM, A. PIEKARSKI wrote: >> > Let me take you through all the steps I went through in the development > =A0(as for any development).=A0 That may reveal where the problem is. > > 1) Record the gismu used with all their places: Fine. > 2) Combine them into=A0the most simple=A0bridi possible Fine. > 3) Create the lujvo,=A0with the rafsi in reverse order of the order of th= e gismu > in the bridi, leaving the places in the same order as in the bridi. You don't distinguish subordinate bridi places from main bridi places? > 4) Delete any places that don't make sense, or the least significant ones > if there are too many. This is already done in step 2, with "zi'o". Use of "zi'o" suggests that the gismu was bloated in the first place. > 5) Now,=A0EITHER (as some lojbanists would have it) leave this as the fin= al > lujvo, > > OR=A0(as others would have it), shift the remaining places so that they a= re > in the order of there most common usage. > > My original question concerned point 5).=A0 I wanted to know if there was= any > concensus as to the best approach. The usual order is main component first, then the rest. > If the responses that came from you, > geyspa and Adam represent community , then=A0I understand the second > approach in point 5) is the favoured one. I don't think I ever reach step 5, since I seem to disagree with your step = 3. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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