From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCF5avmBBoEbAjzVA@googlegroups.com Fri Oct 29 09:13:08 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PBrZf-0004uF-RR; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:13:07 -0700 Received: by wwb34 with SMTP id 34sf1851888wwb.16 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:12:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Kj6JuLxXBpQ3pG8bvdQOYs1oxMdZKI10MD2E8uSe25E=; b=qd8fB2Pw1WN9Z9PPETaF7uUt93k2B9iH+vqaGQHg7gCbNhfBxK4QxGt0wBkSx0NAPP L/JalyIuA+ARaBJ5P5RO9RTRvE/oKabsxk35H59N7nd7Ztx2e4amRFcnVcrbXPfGdk33 mty+2yvyP8MLRBAb/O6bmse+qHAnRDL/ko36M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=2YdG9fEiOkpdgiXbUnOeE9KEij1PsGzwOG1uWTh2Gf+RFCq2X+qqrUt0zfcDU7TdKC dqEaJzItcyFDTcEcsXFWY1sbIlmBWWD1lwpJQugCjIpCaaV8J/jn37edAvxaDXA6tU8M /BsgLoudmCYBMAs+2ZCEjNfAHQwP16R2Ad4Fk= Received: by 10.216.237.73 with SMTP id x51mr1862993weq.19.1288368773545; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:12:53 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.242.202 with SMTP id i52ls1357174wer.0.p; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.180.85 with SMTP id i63mr100843wem.7.1288368771929; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.180.85 with SMTP id i63mr100842wem.7.1288368771914; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f179.google.com (mail-wy0-f179.google.com [74.125.82.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id l2si772161weq.13.2010.10.29.09.12.50; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.179; Received: by wye20 with SMTP id 20so3287268wye.38 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:12:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.146.147 with SMTP id h19mr5196824wbv.197.1288368770647; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.32.140 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:12:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <760229.32777.qm@web88003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <322766.28658.qm@web88005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 13:12:50 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Fw: xagrai and superlatives From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: > I think the point that he was trying to make is that with your formulation, > xorxes, is that you lose the information about from which rafsi you're > pulling the information from. > i.e. if I say {nelrai = ko'e traji lo ka ko'a nelci ce'u kei ko'o ko'i} I've > lost whether the x1 comes from nelci or traji. It makes no sense to have ko'a, ko'e etc. on the right but not on the left. You have to say, for example: ko'a nelrai ko'e ko'i = ko'a traji lo ka ce'u nelci ko'i kei zi'o ko'e You don't lose any information about what comes from where. The x1 of "nelrai", i.e. "ko'a", is clearly filling the x1 of "traji". mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.