From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxD9j67mBBoEaNNy1A@googlegroups.com Fri Oct 29 19:50:51 2010 Received: from mail-px0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PC1Wq-0004TU-BH; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 19:50:51 -0700 Received: by pxi19 with SMTP id 19sf79886pxi.16 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 19:50:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=TGFuwrtWSgc7IFmKJ6KBGbDt3DK/RLvfb1ulFngQM7o=; b=mLCdc4DNu0piNDwKlNGrses7ptUGtNoXclM33/4JykeBdg2ZRZzwiE1osDNM4pzkCy mmxuQYBE4ZYsR/RN6WGAGvg+xndN9S8jgE1otZV+HmGNpGbAN0H27hA+67yA+9/G39NY 5NxVLU/EptbM+LLAKMajJ7swA1yePfkrBtCLw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=Dvx38DUlwN/lzFBXbYO4npKkJ5/X+d5zSdBt6tg9ygcOtn+zfbSF/vAioWcXsaacuo WJOM3yyH74rJsAADDHlnqGmeOVFILWEM8iVmbVq3APJ95UZJSXgVj4GlwczFO0phb2Rz CMAvsrMb9CNcd7exaYT0bdyUqEP0qNBtZ4Rj0= Received: by 10.142.2.25 with SMTP id 25mr110897wfb.60.1288407037269; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 19:50:37 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.78.15 with SMTP id a15ls2417392wfb.2.p; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 19:50:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.177.9 with SMTP id z9mr1515566wfe.18.1288407036644; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 19:50:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.177.9 with SMTP id z9mr1515565wfe.18.1288407036620; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 19:50:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id n6si3136308wfl.3.2010.10.29.19.50.36; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 19:50:36 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.120; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Inhw+Jdt7z1D3BivGPfn2aw54OvUEJw5lAn/booRZkE= c=1 sm=0 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=kDPDoJPaw3jHmBtTkBEA:9 a=QFZFfhx7rd2wSWA40sM1vrw-vRoA:4 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:58751] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 81/CD-13137-BF78BCC4; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 02:50:35 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8EB62B31 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 2010 22:50:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] lujvo deconstruction Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 22:50:31 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <201010291732.15634.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201010292250.32766.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 29 October 2010 22:21:37 Luke Bergen wrote: > I just read that again and am wondering. Is fu'arka supposed to be a > lujvo? I would try to parse that as {fu'a r ka?} It's a fu'ivla meaning "runic alphabet" or "rune" or something like that (I don't think it's been formally defined, and it's not in jbovlaste). I used it as an example in a comment in valfendi. If you lex it from the end you find: rka - can't be a rafsi since "rk" isn't a valid initial arka - valid fu'ivla, preceded by "'", but no "y" so it can't be a fu'ivla lujvo 'arka - no match so it's not a gismu or lujvo. The only thing left is fu'ivla, and it doesn't begin with CVC or CCVC or CVCC, so it's not a type-3. Pierre -- I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.