From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCU6azlBBoECN5aIQ@googlegroups.com Tue Oct 05 07:22:35 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P38PT-0002mV-Iw; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 07:22:35 -0700 Received: by gya1 with SMTP id 1sf4694228gya.16 for ; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 07:22:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=OE0G1lTzvlkwjHK/+2KoWFvnu0BrHdPyIzDPsf1kl60=; b=q2sEaGTctwul61sPtLc7cEy1QcNoZ8rVEddZX0NBL9LVNnTk4qlwCv1NvuwU/LIS9O oSlAuiT0wSEUSpMo/BNdAbRA1S4NiY59Vs76r4JWkNJBq3UGowmlhmAL23W6SIX+NlPC gR0esTVIMXzj/X5DKy2PppKm2tsRTwdJng+Co= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=muoRB+ydm/OuLxtQe8UykFgpHRwCKqeJmQsUjol1KMOd31IvRjj7eT7K0abopqdsON XOsPFowh8KQOjzlUIjBkjcCsjfON0kJ4GH0EHk+qE3Pm9GZItnfI9Dd+ZJ4c3RQX6ZKi esaD7da5LVvKXLXv8+CGg791xzoqnaDalM6t8= Received: by 10.90.164.6 with SMTP id m6mr34617age.11.1286288532484; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 07:22:12 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.125.77 with SMTP id x13ls3213922ibr.1.p; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 07:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.36.73 with SMTP id s9mr2898906ibd.14.1286288531715; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 07:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.36.73 with SMTP id s9mr2898903ibd.14.1286288531534; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 07:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f174.google.com (mail-iw0-f174.google.com [209.85.214.174]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id cn5si3848802ibb.2.2010.10.05.07.22.10; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 07:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.174; Received: by mail-iw0-f174.google.com with SMTP id 5so9285747iwn.5 for ; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 07:22:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.169.203 with SMTP id a11mr12193861ibz.99.1286288530395; Tue, 05 Oct 2010 07:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.48.79 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Oct 2010 07:22:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201010011823.25227.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4CA76670.50601@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 10:22:10 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] la za'e filjvocedra (The Age of Easy Lujvo) From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e68dec3beed3d10491df6228 --0016e68dec3beed3d10491df6228 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ta'onai I was reading a book by Cory Doctorow and he makes reference at one point t= o "Fingerspitzengef=FChl" a german word that means < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingerspitzengef%C3%BChl>. He then talks abou= t how the german language is able to smush lots of small words together until you end up with a long but incredibly precise word that means something tha= t is very hard to express in other languages without having to write out long sentences to describe the thing. I hope that one day people say that of lojban. That's what I hope lujvo will help us do. That's what I was talking about earlier when I said that it's slightly irritating when I see lots of lujvo being defined, all of which are other languages words. Let's make some lojban originals! 2010/10/5 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Ian Johnson > wrote: > > Then why does the word {lujvo} even have an x4? > > Indeed. What's the "metaphor" from which the lujvo "selbri" is built, > for example? > > Most lujvo are not the least bit metaphorical. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --0016e68dec3beed3d10491df6228 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ta'onai
I was reading a book by Cory Doctorow and he makes referenc= e at one point to "Fingerspitzengef=FChl" a german word that mean= s <htt= p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingerspitzengef%C3%BChl>. =A0He then talk= s about how the german language is able to smush lots of small words togeth= er until you end up with a long but incredibly precise word that means some= thing that is very hard to express in other languages without having to wri= te out long sentences to describe the thing.

I hope that one day people say that of lojban. =A0That&= #39;s what I hope lujvo will help us do. =A0That's what I was talking a= bout earlier when I said that it's slightly irritating when I see lots = of lujvo being defined, all of which are other languages words. =A0Let'= s make some lojban originals!

2010/10/5 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote: > Then why does the word {lujvo} even have an x4?

Indeed. What's the "metaphor" from which the lujvo &quo= t;selbri" is built,
for example?

Most lujvo are not the least bit metaphorical.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups &= quot;lojban" group.
To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojba= n?hl=3Den.


--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group.
To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com.
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.
--0016e68dec3beed3d10491df6228--