From lojban+bncCIOnzJa3CxC6lbfmBBoEAvXqJg@googlegroups.com Sun Oct 31 13:00:13 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PCe4T-0005u3-Bx; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 13:00:13 -0700 Received: by wyb38 with SMTP id 38sf2926037wyb.16 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 12:59:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:date:from:to :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-nvg-mailscanner-information:x-nvg-mailscanner:x-mailscanner-from :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; bh=0OAb92gIZQiblenkqzNnkVzAkzKWmsHYo4Tz4vDnNU0=; b=Idj1o/ldoTlIBEhPktggsZIrIxpMhoLSo4ZguxJblLXB7NqQPzB+ERyMqyHea8tbdx C6Xbg5JGeTY94N7bRKePd4gkoJGDI7VXJvSwC+K+RviQGkZNuGdP37dHLQVP12FxryfM 7LovrTUnHcXMGG6ubqF9FMae3PO6LBkvfp5EU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-nvg-mailscanner-information :x-nvg-mailscanner:x-mailscanner-from:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=2QF/3F8LjnZyYmqnmNzzfoFdaEviqgFTl1uEeLBEIAuttphUQUsxFd3BKyrYQNXMOP /emVYkoZWVvYBJG+Qlmr68IswK3FYKq2jXA0JGjRxHmZWDcHbUh+JzUll7f4BlVJXycC esIFnKO336Pmf/HhIJQH6DR8f13hLY3W/kpXw= Received: by 10.216.29.212 with SMTP id i62mr136534wea.9.1288555194271; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 12:59:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.26.28 with SMTP id b28ls380480eea.5.p; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 12:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.29.1 with SMTP id h1mr24319eea.9.1288555190966; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 12:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.29.1 with SMTP id h1mr24318eea.9.1288555190918; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 12:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id v14si886325eeh.1.2010.10.31.12.59.50; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 12:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of arj@nvg.ntnu.no designates 129.241.210.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=129.241.210.67; Received: from sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no (sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no [IPv6:2001:700:300:2000:92e6:baff:fe68:dd1c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8C1947A2 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 20:59:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no (arj@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id o9VJxhbU005373 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 20:59:43 +0100 Received: (from arj@localhost) by sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o9VJxhjv005371 for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 20:59:43 +0100 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 20:59:43 +0100 From: Arnt Richard Johansen To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] cu-alike for other situations Message-ID: <20101031195943.GR8367@nvg.org> References: <20101031173116.GX1105@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20101031173116.GX1105@digitalkingdom.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-NVG-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-NVG-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-MailScanner-From: arj@nvg.ntnu.no X-Original-Sender: arj@nvg.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of arj@nvg.ntnu.no designates 129.241.210.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=arj@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 10:31:17AM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > Something that I and some others have talked about on IRC a few > times is "Wow, cu is pretty useful when deeply nested; wouldn't it > be nice to have something like that that could work in other places > besides before the selbri?". > > This turns out to be surprisingly tricky; many ideas have been shown > to be unworkable. > > I think I might finally have something: mark FA as needing > terminator closure before it. Example: > > mi denpa le nu do xruti fi le nu zutse > > vs. > > mi denpa le nu do xruti cu fi le nu zutse I don't understand what neither the problem nor the solution is. Can you translate the second sentence into current Lojban, please? -- Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ Your speaker should [...] not be suffering for a cold, or cough, or a hangover. If something goes wrong [...] it is important that the speaker has as similar a voice as with the original recording, waiting for another cold to come along is not reasonable, (though some may argue that the same hangover can easily be induced). --Building Synthetic Voices, by Alan W. Black and Kevin A. Lenzo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.