From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCY0rfmBBoEJGSiKQ@googlegroups.com Sun Oct 31 15:09:46 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PCg5s-0006Wc-3z; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:09:46 -0700 Received: by wwb34 with SMTP id 34sf3031185wwb.16 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:09:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=zzYBlUQ1m0b8XvHCCc4Y062oRQnyrfOPH9rnhIGwULM=; b=zp1Noun+wK/tK6+EnL+KPJP/mAnAGKNV3sLZ5fPin92wid2m5jEhm4b7RgoAEOlgNW AtPMNgbORD5+K402YRmjJ+VJdjeBYO0K7P6zrC1XM7Vizwbqf3z1JmeZS11uR4ewuzKK oKOqgz1828KM/dK4GzpkqOYa9evuVeUKY2flM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=D2ohWCpmplXYKoneUyKeMzDQSNzSjB/YP+u+Lw/MNxNrzxTfzShGqgkqmYN5g5qjcZ M8pHMeifp5fm8766ceJi3Vge+6U4IsSSd0ts/I5PMTDIIDwV/VVB8LFXiZR56yAy8DdL A2lpjISut6ezqclQGH8YcrKLjKPIspiOzv2TM= Received: by 10.217.4.79 with SMTP id t57mr2088119wes.12.1288562968762; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:09:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.58.143 with SMTP id q15ls2162167wec.1.p; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.136.23 with SMTP id v23mr773170wei.1.1288562966834; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.136.23 with SMTP id v23mr773169wei.1.1288562966817; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f54.google.com (mail-ww0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id x80si1626217weq.12.2010.10.31.15.09.25; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.54; Received: by wwb13 with SMTP id 13so3928538wwb.23 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:09:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.151.69 with SMTP id b5mr7297764wbw.168.1288562965506; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.32.140 with HTTP; Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:09:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <995110.82874.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 19:09:25 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: mi kakne lo bajra From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Ian Johnson wrote: > The "event is concrete" concept is interesting, but I disagree with the idea > of lumping events in with physical objects in predicate structure. If > anything they should be a third type unto themselves. Why only "third"? Do you lump numbers, sets, properties and propositions into one type? Which predicates accept numbers, sets, properties and propositions but not physical objects? > As for the issue with {zmadu}, the problem that it is possible to compare > two objects as long as they are of the same type, but that comparison is > defined for different types as well. Right, the x3, the property, determines the kind of comparison. It is essentially the same case as "ckaji", where the x2, the property, determines what can go in x1. And indeed any predicate with a property place. The type of the x1 of "mutce" will be determined by the type accepted by the property in x2. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.