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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday 31 October 2010 13:31:17 Robin Lee Powell wrote: > Something that I and some others have talked about on IRC a few > times is "Wow, cu is pretty useful when deeply nested; wouldn't it > be nice to have something like that that could work in other places > besides before the selbri?". > > This turns out to be surprisingly tricky; many ideas have been shown > to be unworkable. > > I think I might finally have something: mark FA as needing > terminator closure before it. Example: > > mi denpa le nu do xruti fi le nu zutse > > vs. > > mi denpa le nu do xruti cu fi le nu zutse > > "cu fi" means "close terminators, at least one, until a fi is > allowed". More than one cu would be allowed there, with the obvious > effect. > > Please note that I am NOT attached to "cu" here; a postfix new cmavo > (i.e. "fi xu'u"), or whatever, would be fine. (IIRC postfix is > easier in terms of grammatical simplicity, but it's been a while). I don't think "cu" should be used like this. As currently defined, "cu" is = the=20 predicate marker, and is very similar to "i" in Tok Pisin, which I learned= =20 before Lojban. Using "cu" to mark that "fi" closes terminators is too weird= =20 to me. If you can make some other cmavo work with "fi", I might be in favor= =20 of it. Pierre --=20 La sal en el mar es m=E1s que en la sangre. Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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