From lojban+bncCIycn8S8DhDqu8zmBBoErUNqlQ@googlegroups.com Thu Nov 04 13:56:25 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PE6r8-0006Sz-8I; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 13:56:25 -0700 Received: by vws14 with SMTP id 14sf1427804vws.16 for ; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 13:56:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZME+G6/QtIDl4AeEyGGq4Lju0pUGz2BbVegDpfWH/7U=; b=hDpme0bApiIzuvnzsazdrrT96hR1pM9vSozQFerlhdMXFz+1EQtT9GzmGGebHexe2S P2K8RNxYqQZboSlPfjWmM1O2UCvNo8dmshWDULwORDvQvsiCDb+CWNzzm7VZUYjJtFvi 5Q+gkMj/Y+sep6+YvJOPU1+RXjao/WNlvgafk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nP/lGS04YF3/Vk0MyTr6NqVmc+cHmCFLChZgxYYQfIciywZmYZ/tRxjpcdGGHR5UUA c0BzSUbZhUv6TpuiAPcyyXgvV5sZWoeVYkxdy85wrV7Elcs7pvcFRFMTOyimq5AfTfD6 sH5znGM8w7ieCSfPPS1WTpiZK2ecR7LBPm5aI= Received: by 10.220.194.75 with SMTP id dx11mr15331vcb.31.1288904170691; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 13:56:10 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.157.196 with SMTP id c4ls376109vcx.5.p; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 13:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.192.73 with SMTP id dp9mr108375vcb.7.1288904169834; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 13:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.192.73 with SMTP id dp9mr108374vcb.7.1288904169814; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 13:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f173.google.com (mail-qy0-f173.google.com [209.85.216.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id a11si40807vci.15.2010.11.04.13.56.08; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 13:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.173; Received: by mail-qy0-f173.google.com with SMTP id 33so1759607qyl.11 for ; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 13:56:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.215.213 with SMTP id hf21mr1092908qcb.189.1288904168223; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 13:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.219.14 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 13:56:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 16:56:08 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Another comic (Again!) From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Remo Dentato wrote: > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Michael Turniansky > wrote: >>> a dijycertu is a {dinju certu} a "building-type of-expert" i.e. an >>> "expert in buildings" =A0i.e. a "master builder". > >> =A0A master builder is a dijyzbacre, a master architect is a >> dijyplacre, and ardchitectural historian is a dijycicre. > > Well, actually going back to the orginal it doesn't say if he's the > master builder or the architect. He said (in the next page) that he > followed the emperor's plans but it's not clear if he is the architect > (and the emperor gave him direction) or the bulder (and the emperor > give him detailed plans). > >> =A0They are all experts about buildings. =A0Just different types of expe= rts. > Given that the original doesn't say it, what about leaving dijcre? We > still don't know what type of expert he his, but we don't know it in > the original either. > > Alternatively. How could I render "Mister Roduz"? The reason the > original put "mister" is to differentiate the viceroy behavior toward > Roduz (a free man) and the frog man (a slave). Just say {coi .roduz.} > doesn't seem right to me. > How about -- coi roduz ga'iru'e vs. doi sutc. ga'icai since he is higher ranked than both? --gejyspa --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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