From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRC28szmBBoEkKWZPw@googlegroups.com Thu Nov 04 15:52:53 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PE8fq-0004ow-Gi; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 15:52:53 -0700 Received: by wyb38 with SMTP id 38sf1498670wyb.16 for ; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 15:52:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=iZIqOEYSdzpzyC2hRfo6lyFR+oft7utpTjr5cBYhm3Q=; b=H6l6q2P2Fj8QL/OJZMZbgnjfC8F8FO72v8hlFXaHarKQN9qCnZ4zDr+Dq6a5FMTQRN HGsQshplnbe5BuXNDczXVXXvjcdrxQW09+MX18RRCFmhPsYxYkYzZxcMSUGo4jbJi71C 6y74poWHVhw+aBl/Jn/pkQCLNKziTXkrk/4Ek= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=M5haA+w8Bju3OI7fdjkC59t4xctBiGN1C5t7dZhadbBu9h3ef//4Wv0OJdQEK/4Kr/ BcuYL0B6OYsxvQX4ckqNvEcg+m0Py5PFT/nqqQQ6T3h+jgE2/pSNO1FEr48k6Ivumh3P if7syKsOmhb4izgbszGwFJm84qsKJm4QtGlcQ= Received: by 10.216.173.84 with SMTP id u62mr83755wel.14.1288911158139; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 15:52:38 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.2.196 with SMTP id 4ls858485wbk.1.p; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 15:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.144.136 with SMTP id z8mr59600wbu.16.1288911156780; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 15:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.144.136 with SMTP id z8mr59599wbu.16.1288911156746; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 15:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f171.google.com (mail-wy0-f171.google.com [74.125.82.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id x80si136256weq.12.2010.11.04.15.52.35; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 15:52:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.171; Received: by mail-wy0-f171.google.com with SMTP id 39so2394772wyb.2 for ; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 15:52:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.136.72 with SMTP id q8mr1335723wbt.52.1288911154918; Thu, 04 Nov 2010 15:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.32.140 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Nov 2010 15:52:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 19:52:34 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Another comic (Again!) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Remo Dentato wrote: > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Michael Turniansky > >> Did you literally mean "riryriryrirni" or would "dzena" work jsut as >> well, if not better? > The orginal says "grand-grandfather" so I repeated here as well. From > to original I didn't know if they meant it literally (but maybe not). > I didn't think about {dzena} My impression from the context was that he meant "our ancestors many generations ago". It didn't occur to me to think of "riryriryrirni" as literally "great-grand parents". And thinking about it now, since they are father and son they probably don't have a common "lo riryriryrirni be ma'a" (not "pe" again!). Maybe "lo dzedzena be ma'a" captures the "many generations ago" idea better. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.