From lojban+bncCIycn8S8DhDk2NDmBBoE_VImiQ@googlegroups.com Fri Nov 05 09:10:25 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PEOru-00047Z-FL; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:10:25 -0700 Received: by vws14 with SMTP id 14sf1756495vws.16 for ; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:10:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ZmP9djojaHnmCDrypYiNsJRmZQLEWZDo5HUtuZtkf7E=; b=30BT7iT7AkvxLaTA0TJmuufQkwYs6imySTLQqOocxEiOjuoU3GB0/bwSj+DeFwbn47 AUkFqGLwRPAj+38KyG33e3C0Ek1x7YuihPymYt3jeqewNbH6mhGfApGCsmYlduKppNQS qr0HZK7lAuu9e5YhXr/4fydeJCzAOYDAoYy+M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=t05zOy3tLg1l4JQgKPguR4gGbXK45/TkHtrv5PR6TFj/uUKgQQ6dEotvjbAyQBvhVd UGTG9TjwsV3fkI8A62jLAPWz5B7tu+thxwt1617k+8WnwxFQBWzDx6w+l2JCZgYfx0ez 8M+y0N9VqsA3070JvqHVOaIEj1z47LcFZpuZ4= Received: by 10.220.191.66 with SMTP id dl2mr49370vcb.28.1288973412801; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:10:12 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.160.2 with SMTP id l2ls459272vcx.4.p; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.178.69 with SMTP id bl5mr425999vcb.19.1288973411042; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.178.69 with SMTP id bl5mr425998vcb.19.1288973411019; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qw0-f44.google.com (mail-qw0-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id j5si142630vcs.12.2010.11.05.09.10.09; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.44; Received: by qwb7 with SMTP id 7so2588139qwb.17 for ; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:10:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.214.70 with SMTP id gz6mr1261729qab.104.1288973409419; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.219.14 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Nov 2010 09:10:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101105150738.GB21919@alice.local> References: <201011042236.10981.phma@phma.optus.nu> <20101105150738.GB21919@alice.local> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 12:10:09 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] bug in jbofi'e From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What Pierre is saying here is that jbofi'e treats "bjo" as if it were a valid rafsi formulation, which it's not. "bj" is not valid initial consonantal blend. Therefore, jbofi'e should have simply marked the whole word as a non-deconstructible fu'ivla. --gejyspa On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:07 AM, .alyn.post. wrote: > On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 10:36:10PM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> I tried various permutations of "lojban". For "nalbjo" it says "being other >> than ??", even though it says just "??" for "selbjo", and vlatai recognizes >> both as fu'ivla. >> > > I can't quite put together what you did here, what happened, and > what you expected. > > Can you restate this as a transcript showing what you typed, the > output you got, and what you expected the output to be? > > -Alan > -- > .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.