From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxCahtHmBBoEeGVh7A@googlegroups.com Fri Nov 05 10:47:25 2010 Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PEQNh-000551-QA; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 10:47:25 -0700 Received: by pwi2 with SMTP id 2sf725638pwi.16 for ; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 10:47:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=2XN9ObbRB4D/80b5ziPm6qMM04YswXcdf++Kq1wofBI=; b=REVD/PoW8qx+tbh876sIxXAiy/m3ghwKSmbIuaVW/d6CnZbOHOYkg8tPCTfTHSDukc bQni7JbTWo2tfCihFBGVRTX5noNGnAp2w5QiF+KdD4ZvnwXjIBE/4O4KTIB6k+nwSqne SdY9NANQLPpNkkGepRxQg5NmKAXJLXgUOwMEQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=aLLg6avpQilN9TXP/W7mtvs19bhpFUMuX/ohej9zy+HWOfAwVKRIfYAQxjirA0U9l1 ifd1fdRPm2GkoA1neP/jF0pexLKVFyQpQksdi5GC8ZO64iFowcUUacbz1q302P6nyVba x/OvLtdKvLXgPeDGXfNt9D75qwC8xC0T2IlaA= Received: by 10.142.65.9 with SMTP id n9mr124729wfa.49.1288979226467; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 10:47:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.2.41 with SMTP id 41ls4670279wfb.0.p; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 10:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.213.8 with SMTP id l8mr1621212wfg.34.1288979224567; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 10:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.213.8 with SMTP id l8mr1621211wfg.34.1288979224537; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 10:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.121]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id n6si3060991wfl.3.2010.11.05.10.47.03; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 10:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.121; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=pepdxKapwHuwCZNFD5uob2wvham6E+RljB0uXw08FdQ= c=1 sm=0 a=yXUc7qZDhQAA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=vDduukmHnFXFGveOwKgA:9 a=KhuWAfUziBEzlTU8WWUA:7 a=xGnf13aPuAyHX1FncxmKN0Z4QcoA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:38251] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id A6/3E-19545-71344DC4; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 17:47:03 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1359FA2D0 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 2010 13:41:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] bug in jbofi'e Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 13:41:27 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <201011042236.10981.phma@phma.optus.nu> <201011051217.20884.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201011051341.28733.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 05 November 2010 12:36:16 Michael Turniansky wrote: > Right, because it's behaving as if "bjo" is a valid rafsi formation. > (For example, compare the way it handles "nalce'e/selce'e") It knows > that nal- means "other than f" where f is the gismu of the second > rafsi, so it can say that part even if the second rafsi is undefined. > But SE conversions it can't do unless the rafsi is actually pointing > to a real gismu because the x2 's gloss is completely > gismu-dependent, so those just return "???". (just like it can say > "grace'e" is "weighed in grams -???"). What is SHOULD be saying is > "unrecognized word", just like "grabjo" gets you. It obviously has > special code for certain beginnig rafsi. "grabjo" gets "unrecognized word" because it's a slinku'i. "norbjo" and "narbjo" get "???" because they're fu'ivla. "tolbjo", however, gets "being opposite of ??", which is a bug. Why it tries to translate "tolbjo" and "nalbjo" as lujvo, but "norbjo" and "narbjo" and "valbjo" as fu'ivla, I don't know. Pierre -- li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.