From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCP6uXmBBoEv94Tfw@googlegroups.com Tue Nov 09 08:21:49 2010 Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PFqx7-0007mF-Ju; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 08:21:49 -0800 Received: by pzk26 with SMTP id 26sf2095676pzk.16 for ; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 08:21:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=o7VIyMhtTXFlzr7VletpeNhexGTR9vpw2HOSDdKeyNQ=; b=gJQizVAHX03hnzi9YENw6IFgfGab4UARy0hGqv67xpAsiw3kTWbTHHvJ2cYhfKndWd UuLCJUPleV77KScmlkB29dhqD0QtqM+MUWsUvUQrcAPUWRm3jyQyaOZ9ol3ulrooG3mD zI6XKaFZMWwxv4Ewfgzeeu880yxSoFPkw7RZ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=l+QBT2hiQe9PTo7mSjGl3sHx0Pz6F11SHjsObdSqqb9FuAk6rp1+B0WJwx9E2pyGc4 9pSOs1C2tcKAJMqfU1PfdjkPHfrSnKLUgEzJ/FE5gTR/6+T2f/5W0qurk6sFy2fokI4s /pWYFtjkZkyBGtGFi9H5ZqOL/yNiCxFVTxwvo= Received: by 10.142.149.8 with SMTP id w8mr411396wfd.45.1289319695292; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 08:21:35 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.249.41 with SMTP id w41ls10119809wfh.1.p; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 08:21:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.83.1 with SMTP id g1mr4935146wfb.35.1289319693839; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 08:21:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.83.1 with SMTP id g1mr4935144wfb.35.1289319693807; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 08:21:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pv0-f179.google.com (mail-pv0-f179.google.com [74.125.83.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id f13si13680029wfo.4.2010.11.09.08.21.32; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 08:21:32 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.83.179; Received: by pvg13 with SMTP id 13so2325590pvg.24 for ; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 08:21:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.216.12 with SMTP id hg12mr4659286icb.117.1289319691597; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 08:21:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.114.142 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 08:21:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 11:21:31 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] I wanted to share this with you (writing thingy!). From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf301d41aa3836890494a12251 --20cf301d41aa3836890494a12251 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 At first I didn't really like how you handled the vowels, but since I can't immediately think of any better ways of doing it... ok. So I'm still not sure how "'", ".", and "," are handled under this system. I see from one of the images that you put a little ^ looking thing underneath the "e" in "mi'e". So, is that part of the system or was that one of many creative ways to show it? Also, I thought I remembered at one point that you (or maybe it was lakmir or someone else) had chosen vowels that made the diphthongs more obvious. It was something like: i |ai | a __|___|___ oi| e | au __|___|___ o | ei| u | | Where except in the case of "ei", each vowel diphthong could be made by combining the two corners that make up the constituent vowels. i.e. |_ + _| = |_| Did this idea fall through the cracks or did I dream it? I'm guessing at this point there is no chance of changing the system without causing an episode, so don't take this as me trying to get up in larlermorna and change everything on you lindar. I'm just wondering whatever happened to the vowels. On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > So, ummm... I could like, use this for my signature on pictures, if > I had any artistic ability whatwoever? > > http://picasaweb.google.com/Mturniansky/Vlapir#5537576240006013778 > > --gejyspa > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --20cf301d41aa3836890494a12251 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At first I didn't really like how you handled the vowels, but since I c= an't immediately think of any better ways of doing it... ok.

So I'm still not sure how "'", ".", an= d "," are handled under this system. =A0I see from one of the ima= ges that you put a little ^ looking thing underneath the "e" in &= quot;mi'e". =A0So, is that part of the system or was that one of m= any=A0creative ways to show it?

Also, I thought I remembered at one point that you (or = maybe it was lakmir or someone else) had chosen vowels that made the diphth= ongs more obvious. =A0It was something like:

= i |ai | a=A0
__|___|___
oi| e | au=
__|___|___
o | ei| u
=A0=A0| =A0 | = =A0=A0

Where except in the case of "ei", each vowel = diphthong could be made by combining the two corners that make up the const= ituent vowels. =A0i.e. =A0 |_ =A0+ _| =A0=3D |_|

D= id this idea fall through the cracks or did I dream it?

I'm guessing at this point there is no chance of ch= anging the system without causing an episode, so don't take this as me = trying to get up in larlermorna and change everything on you lindar. =A0I&#= 39;m just wondering whatever happened to the vowels.

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Michael Tur= niansky <mtur= niansky@gmail.com> wrote:
=A0So, ummm... I could like, use this for my signature on pictures, if
I had any artistic ability whatwoever?

http://picasaweb.google.com/Mturniansky/Vlapir#553757= 6240006013778

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa

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