From lojban+bncCIycn8S8DhD08OXmBBoE4fBWZg@googlegroups.com Tue Nov 09 08:36:17 2010 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PFrB7-0000YT-JS; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 08:36:17 -0800 Received: by qyk1 with SMTP id 1sf5324053qyk.16 for ; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 08:36:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=c/0bJPMbq+0vh0vcLVGL+x+/Kbqc7HA7MO0A8mTWRcU=; b=lvPrMZ6JKHasYa4x0KMPpknSjL+6FIsnijWBedC/tKfnhqKcO48us37T3aa8pFHtmO u05Ww+S0qQs4qXtcNWkNWKWDkhaCj6wkfgRaOz6Rr+8AySkXv4vj1xZYoakFy9LoMpxT vK5m9WSXpXshLNrpHwTZf9Pjm/5+ynLMaDH6w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=5AKoUqXGgD91S2BPIXRpgf35CN20dX6ThysOv7nXbNm69cOot7Ue064/SRLkmNC2YS SNCs64V1KjLe3C7Ops8tPnPdY7cJQhyzCELArMB9zqGVXol9OQcQi7Z/AgX+AaCCJTYz AlxXuSnmSak6VFondp41o/vu5dzVfcP2HdP68= Received: by 10.229.78.204 with SMTP id m12mr580082qck.49.1289320564065; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 08:36:04 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.183.1 with SMTP id ce1ls1059951qab.6.p; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 08:36:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.247.200 with SMTP id md8mr820004qcb.5.1289320563283; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 08:36:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.247.200 with SMTP id md8mr820003qcb.5.1289320563244; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 08:36:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qw0-f43.google.com (mail-qw0-f43.google.com [209.85.216.43]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 3si3420063qci.14.2010.11.09.08.36.02; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 08:36:02 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.43 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.43; Received: by mail-qw0-f43.google.com with SMTP id 9so4537496qwj.16 for ; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 08:36:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.182.147 with SMTP id cc19mr6412037qcb.265.1289320561923; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 08:36:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.219.14 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 08:36:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 11:36:01 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] I wanted to share this with you (writing thingy!). From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.43 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's because NONE of the links Lindar gave actually have it all in one place... "Y" is an "x" shape, and the apostrophe is a "^" shape. (What I haven't figured out from his examples is what the dot means inside of some vowels.... --gejyspa On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: > Oh, and I can't believe I completely missed it, where is "y"? =A0Maybe th= at's > what could go in that "?" block (the upper right bock in the voiced grid)= ? > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Luke Bergen wrot= e: >> >> At first I didn't really like how you handled the vowels, but since I >> can't immediately think of any better ways of doing it... ok. >> So I'm still not sure how "'", ".", and "," are handled under this syste= m. >> =A0I see from one of the images that you put a little ^ looking thing >> underneath the "e" in "mi'e". =A0So, is that part of the system or was t= hat >> one of many=A0creative ways to show it? >> Also, I thought I remembered at one point that you (or maybe it was lakm= ir >> or someone else) had chosen vowels that made the diphthongs more obvious= . >> =A0It was something like: >> i |ai | a >> __|___|___ >> oi| e | au >> __|___|___ >> o | ei| u >> =A0=A0| =A0 | >> Where except in the case of "ei", each vowel diphthong could be made by >> combining the two corners that make up the constituent vowels. =A0i.e. = =A0 |_ =A0+ >> _| =A0=3D |_| >> Did this idea fall through the cracks or did I dream it? >> I'm guessing at this point there is no chance of changing the system >> without causing an episode, so don't take this as me trying to get up in >> larlermorna and change everything on you lindar. =A0I'm just wondering >> whatever happened to the vowels. >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Michael Turniansky >> wrote: >>> >>> =A0So, ummm... I could like, use this for my signature on pictures, if >>> I had any artistic ability whatwoever? >>> >>> http://picasaweb.google.com/Mturniansky/Vlapir#5537576240006013778 >>> >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps >>> "lojban" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >>> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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