From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhCip-jmBBoERnBvBg@googlegroups.com Tue Nov 09 19:38:25 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PG1Vt-0003nu-TP; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 19:38:25 -0800 Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28sf186656gxk.16 for ; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 19:38:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=HNm2IFU2NHvw9Dx9GQK7eN7tmQxMWouaI0AsHmSadF0=; b=qRxomvbcdk8I9lic/SXtizysl2sKBy9iirb6F8E+f2ygP4MF2VztDs1J4GqZrFYiRT g2EA4wcvm+kozFMW7fbHawdR39vUUjA1YsAJipWpYjgzfSnMnsHLlcBz/wohTYN0t6tn Pqh7emmpQVXL2SccRBwDD4J82oyYRkzMnFmzo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=VWCGyaUZzYV0swtev3V9+yrUmilNwAjUe3hUHZQj4M/qex2KebOSwE/1OfklLF4m0o hwNFhVm+22F3wkyOQ4ybWuQgnAinm6EN1KQNVEu4dw3zuxsfceDxJTQEYU8zUQwAE7z1 /q/bCYF+/ZzkI3ez8CWCiRaduddvCYTltmIuY= Received: by 10.150.72.10 with SMTP id u10mr841408yba.81.1289360290457; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 19:38:10 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.158.14 with SMTP id g14ls167134ybe.7.p; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 19:38:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.201.7 with SMTP id y7mr2377710ybf.48.1289360289665; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 19:38:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.201.7 with SMTP id y7mr2377709ybf.48.1289360289617; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 19:38:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gy0-f178.google.com (mail-gy0-f178.google.com [209.85.160.178]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id g34si57047ybc.3.2010.11.09.19.38.08; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 19:38:08 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.178 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.178; Received: by gyb13 with SMTP id 13so122804gyb.37 for ; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 19:38:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.217.129 with SMTP id hm1mr4086374icb.43.1289360287416; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 19:38:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.37.198 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 19:38:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 20:38:07 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] I wanted to share this with you (writing thingy!). From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.178 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305641bdeb42d00494aa9575 --20cf305641bdeb42d00494aa9575 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think I like this method for the vowels better. On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: > At first I didn't really like how you handled the vowels, but since I can't > immediately think of any better ways of doing it... ok. > > So I'm still not sure how "'", ".", and "," are handled under this system. > I see from one of the images that you put a little ^ looking thing > underneath the "e" in "mi'e". So, is that part of the system or was that > one of many creative ways to show it? > > Also, I thought I remembered at one point that you (or maybe it was lakmir > or someone else) had chosen vowels that made the diphthongs more obvious. > It was something like: > > i |ai | a > __|___|___ > oi| e | au > __|___|___ > o | ei| u > | | > > Where except in the case of "ei", each vowel diphthong could be made by > combining the two corners that make up the constituent vowels. i.e. |_ + > _| = |_| > > Did this idea fall through the cracks or did I dream it? > > I'm guessing at this point there is no chance of changing the system > without causing an episode, so don't take this as me trying to get up in > larlermorna and change everything on you lindar. I'm just wondering > whatever happened to the vowels. > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Michael Turniansky > wrote: > >> So, ummm... I could like, use this for my signature on pictures, if >> I had any artistic ability whatwoever? >> >> http://picasaweb.google.com/Mturniansky/Vlapir#5537576240006013778 >> >> --gejyspa >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --20cf305641bdeb42d00494aa9575 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think I like this method for the vowels better.

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmai= l.com> wrote:
At first I didn't really lik= e how you handled the vowels, but since I can't immediately think of an= y better ways of doing it... ok.=20

So I'm still not sure how "'", ".", and &q= uot;," are handled under this system. =A0I see from one of the images = that you put a little ^ looking thing underneath the "e" in "= ;mi'e". =A0So, is that part of the system or was that one of many= =A0creative ways to show it?

Also, I thought I remembered at one point that you (or maybe it was la= kmir or someone else) had chosen vowels that made the diphthongs more obvio= us. =A0It was something like:

i |ai | a=A0
__|___|___
oi| e | au
__|___|___
o | ei| u
=A0=A0| =A0 | =A0=A0

Where except in the case of "ei", each vowel diphthong could= be made by combining the two corners that make up the constituent vowels. = =A0i.e. =A0 |_ =A0+ _| =A0=3D |_|

Did this idea fall through the cracks or did I dream it?

I'm guessing at this point there is no chance of changing the syst= em without causing an episode, so don't take this as me trying to get u= p in larlermorna and change everything on you lindar. =A0I'm just wonde= ring whatever happened to the vowels.

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Michael Turnian= sky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
=A0So, ummm... I could like, use= this for my signature on pictures, if
I had any artistic ability whatwo= ever?

http://picasaweb.google.com/Mturniansky/Vlapir#55= 37576240006013778

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa

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