From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhDZx73mBBoE3tV-Xw@googlegroups.com Mon Nov 01 18:05:44 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PD5Jl-0004Ze-Di; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:05:44 -0700 Received: by vws14 with SMTP id 14sf8763944vws.16 for ; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:05:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=EfYzwOA84Pvp8HvxAhZiv+sWXUSE2OXNhxqzA80AMp0=; b=Es7Gxo5isQlREYV85XmjiUs9w0g9Kx0dR1yEqtE7GYfs1lV8s8Ixku7XPJeSkhscPH gc1+/Ngs9lSfpFs+eBfjTdt4Kt/iivWctWPQ54Vui2kNUjPg8laPM7TPTTM97qsmHFZe CpeqtrSa+IfstESmL6Fk/CLUV+nb1fur6HEJ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=GaXroCC2VGFoRE9T2SY8S4A681El6k+sBmEbkeG4rnzGyMbU/D+Pn8bKXUvL/p3jFc X3kNWmJ5S8tKvDkrFdWkoReMzDj6/Lrca5MUn/7YInkuNuz5S6p3vm/oF9p5/Rp40dRQ AyraHNaZqJm+VgE25TNM4zw7zwa5QBRbYuA34= Received: by 10.220.194.75 with SMTP id dx11mr36639vcb.31.1288659929534; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:05:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.127.94 with SMTP id f30ls1046015vcs.1.p; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.192.73 with SMTP id dp9mr10079vcb.7.1288659928733; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.192.73 with SMTP id dp9mr10078vcb.7.1288659928694; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f42.google.com (mail-vw0-f42.google.com [209.85.212.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id k23si1003282vcr.14.2010.11.01.18.05.27; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.42; Received: by mail-vw0-f42.google.com with SMTP id 2so2960249vws.29 for ; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:05:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.140.147 with SMTP id i19mr590875qau.395.1288659927561; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.187.77 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 18:05:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 19:05:27 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] lujvo deconstruction From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5c33c37f4d70494078507 --000e0cd5c33c37f4d70494078507 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2010/11/1 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > 2010/11/1 Jorge Llamb=EDas > >> > >> In deconstructing "cakrespa", it thinks it splits as "calku zei respa" > >> rather than the correct "ca kerfa zei spati". > > > > That's not a very good example, since the {ca} falls off and the lujvo = is > > actually {krespa}, which is correctly split. I wouldn't expect jvozba t= o > > correctly handle a fake lujvo that was purposely intended to fool it. > > I would. That's the whole point of having a self-segregating > morphology, isn't it? > Yes. The reason I wouldn't expect that, however, is because it isn't a grammar parser. It is intended solely for the purpose of creating or splitting lujvo. It is not intended to receive any input other than lujvo. That is like, to be overly simplistic, feeding "(x^8+7)(y^4-6)" to an addin= g machine. Feeding a machine input it isn't designed to process is bound to fail everytime. > It also thinks that li'ela'i is a lujvo, rather than two cmavo. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> 201= 0/11/1 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllamb= ias@gmail.com>
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>> In deconstructing "cakrespa", it think= s it splits as "calku zei respa"
>> rather than the corr= ect "ca kerfa zei spati".
>
> That's not a very g= ood example, since the {ca} falls off and the lujvo is
> actually {krespa}, which is correctly split. I wouldn't expect jvo= zba to
> correctly handle a fake lujvo that was purposely intended to= fool it.

I would. That's the whole point of having a self= -segregating
morphology, isn't it?
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Yes. The reason I wouldn't expect that, however, is because it isn= 't a grammar parser. It is intended solely for the purpose of creating = or splitting lujvo. It is not intended to receive any input other than lujv= o. That is like, to be overly simplistic, feeding "(x^8+7)(y^4-6)"= ; to an adding machine. Feeding a machine input it isn't designed to pr= ocess is bound to fail everytime.
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It also thinks that li'ela&#= 39;i is a lujvo, rather than two cmavo.

mu'o mi'e xorxes
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