From lojban+bncCML0xpmUARD_0L3mBBoE_Jptfw@googlegroups.com Mon Nov 01 18:25:34 2010 Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PD5cw-0003xr-Ho; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:25:34 -0700 Received: by pwi2 with SMTP id 2sf522941pwi.16 for ; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:25:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=PCQ5em+CuECJq0n5WTU6aQ01j1CdHkSKnkWsedLVPOI=; b=wr2p36Ses92D7QtuscXXzWgpQg6ncmZS8wtkaxUI4Fr0+jX2I7fTQSo5bMBaU/MTsA vtDJWGrzenw9z2c3JVIoKGfBrR4DGVxjpohOYq3erMwvkmDj9iSS/0mGiRnqLg++/q39 +uuAxdKrEGzdIYyOe04FCpU1+e7ttRfXea11Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=rBa/b9Y6X7Iu2m4h5GC0TbDwCt0Ei23b+RprPh1lUW8eDW86fTKmaXhJmUUdCiPesL 5/WyAwDXF0/pmBxZ5rT35nV1oqan43BjA+yllhxsRignYB1lsayuEoUTaJezD0T8Wg9r JqF1bqTLusJC8xt+D5bSHTzf1q6o4rnVnGqwE= Received: by 10.142.250.33 with SMTP id x33mr235940wfh.2.1288661119128; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:25:19 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.6.9 with SMTP id 9ls6661791wff.3.p; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.141.3 with SMTP id o3mr3980738wfd.41.1288661117864; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.141.3 with SMTP id o3mr3980737wfd.41.1288661117834; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pv0-f179.google.com (mail-pv0-f179.google.com [74.125.83.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id y8si11187096wfj.1.2010.11.01.18.25.16; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.83.179; Received: by mail-pv0-f179.google.com with SMTP id 13so876266pvg.38 for ; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:25:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.154.15 with SMTP id b15mr5182765wfe.393.1288661116727; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.71.13 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 18:25:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <995110.82874.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:25:16 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: mi kakne lo bajra From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2e9a4193497049407cc26 --000e0cd2e9a4193497049407cc26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's a tricky one. It's not concrete, and it's not an event (although some lujvo of it would be events, which is interesting from the perspective of a type system). Of the others, I am less sure. mu'o mi'e latros. On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:55 AM, tijlan wrote: > On 31 October 2010 21:55, Ian Johnson wrote: > > The "event is concrete" concept is interesting, but I disagree with the > idea > > of lumping events in with physical objects in predicate structure. If > > anything they should be a third type unto themselves. > > To which of the types does the x1 of {tcima} belong? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --000e0cd2e9a4193497049407cc26 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's a tricky one. It's not concrete, and it's not an event (= although some lujvo of it would be events, which is interesting from the pe= rspective of a type system). Of the others, I am less sure.

mu'o mi'e latros.

On Mon, No= v 1, 2010 at 7:55 AM, tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>
On 31 October 2010 21:55, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:
> The "event is concrete" concept is interesting, but I disagr= ee with the idea
> of lumping events in with physical objects in predicate structure. If<= br> > anything they should be a third type unto themselves.

To which of the types does the x1 of {tcima} belong?

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