From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhD57fXmBBoEOrARWw@googlegroups.com Fri Nov 12 09:19:04 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PGxHA-0007vd-PI; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:19:04 -0800 Received: by yxf34 with SMTP id 34sf1605357yxf.16 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:18:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ILW6eN2+Bjl1fZOZVNNyCk6EEHv7i4Elsxg7JvZoj4I=; b=U8lcV/8va0E5f2AwlzVJjLpjYxQDUQeTIiTe5pUOGg2Ztk0kHQmiRLr2Zb9uxVRzJV ND7X0iPcDs20zUeaqvkfor04iDh5MM1j3/AnKaMezhcki2FE3kdHR3YBNzHSQihqACwD GwALzT96O0zJ0lNyRer2dZl7DYUfW3hfoXVVs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=JaP4X0xQk5cQE8H2seTBs8z5DFbG1/U6uO+JQHaVOAOLB1UJsNb5idTquuXvbwqfoh L+9uHvoOKxTUW4a87EouSTD0ve0lLRr4HzcnyOnbSerF3S118kDqLMQxA+I3nwBqF6bY 1T6/r9gV1jynHeGJgZphKA4q+iftpQKotMICE= Received: by 10.91.113.9 with SMTP id q9mr231711agm.2.1289582329469; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:18:49 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.123.203 with SMTP id q11ls2479891ibr.2.p; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:18:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.37.201 with SMTP id y9mr619695ibd.14.1289582328378; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:18:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.37.201 with SMTP id y9mr619694ibd.14.1289582328265; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:18:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f174.google.com (mail-iw0-f174.google.com [209.85.214.174]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id cm31si1912712ibb.3.2010.11.12.09.18.47; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:18:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.174; Received: by mail-iw0-f174.google.com with SMTP id 10so4064240iwn.5 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:18:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.14.130 with SMTP id g2mr2173955iba.192.1289582327080; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:18:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.37.198 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:18:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4e2ac221-68ca-4ed6-94d9-9275bbc59114@r4g2000prj.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:18:46 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: I wanted to share this with you (writing thingy!). From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003255751de83a8270494de4803 --0003255751de83a8270494de4803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Lindar wrote: > > From the point of view of the grammar, there is no difference at all > > between them. The comma never makes a phonemic difference. If you use > > it, it's just for decorative purposes. It's unfortunate that it was > > ever even added to the Lojban alphabet. > > Isn't this completely against what the CLL says? > I thought triphthongs were illegal, and essentially that says they - > are- legal. > > While it claims to not make a difference, I do hear/say one > between .A,ionys. and .AI,onys. > > =/ > Except that Lojban words are penultimately stressed, so it would be .aIOnys. vs. .aiOnys. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0003255751de83a8270494de4803 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Lindar <lindarthebard@yaho= o.com> wrote:
> From the point of view of the grammar, there is no d= ifference at all
> between them. The comma never makes a phonemic dif= ference. If you use
> it, it's just for decorative purposes. It&#= 39;s unfortunate that it was
> ever even added to the Lojban alphabet.

Isn't this co= mpletely against what the CLL says?
I thought triphthongs were illegal, = and essentially that says they -
are- legal.

While it claims to n= ot make a difference, I do hear/say one
between .A,ionys. and .AI,onys.

=3D/
Except th= at Lojban words are penultimately stressed, so it would be .aIOnys. vs. .ai= Onys.


--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.= a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi pa= tfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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