From lojban+bncCIycn8S8DhD29fXmBBoExWiSjQ@googlegroups.com Fri Nov 12 09:36:07 2010 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PGxXe-0000ml-Mq; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:36:07 -0800 Received: by qyk1 with SMTP id 1sf5357080qyk.16 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:35:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cmOr5pejCVN5PGlF3ZBqXE7X2AshtT8cUZYeiIf1Y0E=; b=aR7ZFmMbbbbOiBrqAduTTYU8OalJSl8vMBYm0gdlpqU8Lu9OJhRiejSAvhJNHzXRfX Q5WvIUgXL1jix57oPeaUSL9PvyljKeqtj0UyCan+CTkyDD79k1CePaqZ+FOKyvDUAqMy DXEb841N8Gzc+sqG9L+/GjI1CDfUGpERlBf6g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vNIYjSSm3qZrN+Llfp2SorDFDDA0oj11OntDXU5w32bVoBHV1d2tYKm4hIFzMV0Zmv 4S5mJFhWaIssDcnQcz3OeT/YLncIe1wk6w/jWVjDae0jSnWjwRsR7yjha1HW94QdCpey bqTqMWQ+vuZ6XjD7cwTMKHSOzErltOS+aAIwo= Received: by 10.229.130.170 with SMTP id t42mr339185qcs.3.1289583350255; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:35:50 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.56.161 with SMTP id y33ls1073693qcg.1.p; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:35:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.229.195 with SMTP id jj3mr274921qcb.26.1289583349481; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:35:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.229.195 with SMTP id jj3mr274920qcb.26.1289583349458; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:35:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qw0-f49.google.com (mail-qw0-f49.google.com [209.85.216.49]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id u1si1881335qco.1.2010.11.12.09.35.48; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:35:48 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.49 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.49; Received: by qwh6 with SMTP id 6so3396453qwh.36 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:35:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.236.193 with SMTP id kl1mr2195995qcb.37.1289583348074; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:35:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.219.14 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:35:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4e2ac221-68ca-4ed6-94d9-9275bbc59114@r4g2000prj.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 12:35:47 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: I wanted to share this with you (writing thingy!). From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2010/11/12 Jorge Llamb=EDas : > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote= : >> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Lindar wrote: >>> >>> While it claims to not make a difference, I do hear/say one >>> between .A,ionys. and .AI,onys. >> >> Except that Lojban words are penultimately stressed, so it would be .aIO= nys. >> vs. .aiOnys. > > But "y" syllables don't count. > > In any case, stress is not relevant for cmevla. So no matter where you > put the stress, and no matter how you split the syllables, you are > pronouncing the same word in all cases. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes Except that xorxes and I disagree on that point. I believe that stress is salient feature of cmevla and that la martin and la marTIN are not the same person/animal/thing (unless that person answers to both names). --gjeyspa --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.