From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCcm_bmBBoEpR1oYg@googlegroups.com Fri Nov 12 10:56:21 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PGynK-0005bo-HI; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:56:21 -0800 Received: by wyb38 with SMTP id 38sf2259965wyb.16 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:56:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Oey+FGKQu5gO+PtZd4GkwGs347l9V5YmyqzCs8i1YRo=; b=LIN99eZ/ai3WAr+K0bcNOlnrCA4C2IrBwUqHUvV94iT0uVT/gdGixxjkFwRuipA0d6 871VbaZP61bDtOwJzf/5qSd/BN+5tNLoTUYTlB5tMph0IFMwp7Nunwow6ORvNu9+y8pX bUHGpDj/AwP+NY+iAU/3yMbkU1E8N4qibyAvI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=TVmXAIgdSnIw2nCB38caVmkaLrhr6LVeYhOAUv/0WNKyL73c8DdE/adNPO8Gh7CYU0 8fhGHtD1n1cdloHpzBnk1yYryNjL+b836F/B5bpANxUDTBz8XKmK/+2Iu0CG/HvIZ1/y ep6kEcBVdGnhN0JJT12QxJ0GaSD1EKl9Mde6U= Received: by 10.216.54.206 with SMTP id i56mr329358wec.24.1289588124589; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:55:24 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.110.83 with SMTP id m19ls1213591wbp.0.p; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:55:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.135.75 with SMTP id m11mr117385wbt.7.1289588122042; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:55:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.135.75 with SMTP id m11mr117384wbt.7.1289588122003; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:55:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id q27si1284695wbv.5.2010.11.12.10.55.20; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:55:20 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.53; Received: by mail-ww0-f53.google.com with SMTP id 15so2670491wwe.34 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:55:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.132.208 with SMTP id c16mr2864672wbt.25.1289588119852; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:55:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.138.16 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:55:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4e2ac221-68ca-4ed6-94d9-9275bbc59114@r4g2000prj.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 15:55:19 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: I wanted to share this with you (writing thingy!). From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.53 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: > > (Plus, > pronouncing somebody's name with the stress they like on it is > friendly.) Yes, that's similar to pronouncing a Chinese name with the tone they like, even though tone is irrelevant in Lojban. For personal names, it is polite to at least try to use whatever the name bearer likes, when you are aware of it and you are able to manage it. But for names of places, products, and so on, insisting that everyone should use one or another of the permissible forms is not really practical. > But yeah, there's no doubt about the fact that, from a morphological > and syntactical standpoint, .martin. and .marTIN. are the same name. > Ditto .ai,on,ys., .a,iO,nys., and any other variation in placement of > the commas and the stress. As far as the grammar is concerned, it is > as irrelevant as the fact that I say the name with a rounded .y. This > isn't a matter for disagreement; it's a feature of the official > parser. At least a feature of the official-to-be parser. I don't know what the currently official parser does, since it doesn't really have a fully functional morphology. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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