From lojban+bncCK7Yk5CUCxCB1vrmBBoESBxMYQ@googlegroups.com Sat Nov 13 07:13:21 2010 Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PHHn3-0006uy-Lx; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 07:13:21 -0800 Received: by qwh5 with SMTP id 5sf6381375qwh.16 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 07:13:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Sedgr5LJOsd7XccFkwLwh2FJOHrDl5Wa2S6RvrJiGDY=; b=vsqy59Zm+Tk8j3TEpL5pshEgsTEDK+m91MMQ1uehL1YAlnxi/SOb0HF+E53hStxzG4 3mDJrzRbOQxf+92aaeNlKnT6UH/7mPrWjIh3Q0n1HHlFZ1ahivpnAbY/PbnTMBR7vjrO N2mFDP9VEnCXsjT3rYRNtwoe5JwHsMF5i0/EY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QK4kWR3op5RcgqJZhxvEuM6YclhSNO4DNnvD/8csU1U5dJK4xFQlGbxt72OxRSLvfL vpTftGwjKmim0tPfxiPHrmxCfJj4fgzvcgCkMLPID06taoNS5h6Igar7HDKYJsFWbVAD seKM0oynaUmy02nz/UXRvtPh6R94pMtncdONY= Received: by 10.224.211.136 with SMTP id go8mr182716qab.36.1289661185126; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 07:13:05 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.191.194 with SMTP id dn2ls273006qab.3.p; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 07:13:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.2.85 with SMTP id 21mr400748qai.29.1289661184387; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 07:13:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.2.85 with SMTP id 21mr400747qai.29.1289661184372; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 07:13:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qw0-f45.google.com (mail-qw0-f45.google.com [209.85.216.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id j6si2082026qcu.10.2010.11.13.07.13.03; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 07:13:03 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.45; Received: by mail-qw0-f45.google.com with SMTP id 4so827271qwi.18 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 07:13:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.224.81 with SMTP id in17mr3188552qcb.81.1289661183132; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 07:13:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.226.15 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 07:13:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:13:03 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] mind map of lojban terms From: Remo Dentato To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2010/11/13 Jorge Llamb=EDas : > On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Remo Dentato wrote= : >> >> I think I would skip {jufra} and {selsku}, I was trying to list those >> words that express lojbanic concepts. > > In that case, you may want to remove "cmene" and "valsi". There's > nothing especially lojbanic about them. Possibly "gadri" too. > > I know you don't mean this to be overly accurate, but the way "lerfu" > is often used in English it does not to mean "letter", but > "letter-word", or even "letter-phrase". We will say that "by" is a > lerfu, and that ".abu" is a lerfu, even though "by" is a word, not a > letter, and ".abu" is two words, not a letter. You're right. Actually {cmene} is there mainly to remind me the difference with {cmevla} and {valsi} to provide a branch for the different types of words. I've added {slaka bu} and {denpa bu}. I was wondering if also add {.y'y} ... The "thing to remember" in this case is that they are letters and not punctuation but this seems a little bit weak to me... I'll post a new version later, hoping for other comments to come. Thanks! --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.