From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxDvv_vmBBoEkFrkBA@googlegroups.com Sat Nov 13 10:59:09 2010 Received: from mail-pv0-f189.google.com ([74.125.83.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PHLJY-00009B-CG; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:59:09 -0800 Received: by pvh1 with SMTP id 1sf1591175pvh.16 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:58:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=ItNknNNmu1bX7lZA3BjNCeeHv0NzOLuvARWXixJP+ZI=; b=nDFhl8zBYmyDFlO7eNGq4PhSz+0eVmsy7pP4iO+5ePWyjSzFZLh8piIdqYRsxNoaBW MiH8YFk6zuhnz4NycMVlFIZgisA/V5lZvc1qpq4QaNeKNfUWgmBA8unKTD+5IJw1XuOO ucguCbc75mvsfqnLlziU9S0z8ip331o85ycE4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=b2rr1qhATVdjlcVuaGh0hCeia1IS7VaE4IPox0Ws5TUtb/0U4pF3g7RnXiBoaxSFya PrbUhfsKbdOO+fdb3wgngErWtgetf9Nqivx88/kT4a/JvQUalqJkZeBWWw203t1uuqgn g64YOFZldlwjKJfWD8vW2cXOnbsotAviqZ2Ho= Received: by 10.143.27.40 with SMTP id e40mr219662wfj.66.1289674735121; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:58:55 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.6.9 with SMTP id 9ls5817121wff.3.p; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:58:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.188.20 with SMTP id l20mr2212006wff.2.1289674731716; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:58:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.188.20 with SMTP id l20mr2212001wff.2.1289674731552; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:58:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id f13si7658099wfo.0.2010.11.13.10.58.51; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:58:51 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.123; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=uESSSoDEku2quKX/oFXS2Smn5+55LTFcWFr5T5T8nFs= c=1 sm=0 a=CsxeWlRgweIA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=sIjASDoaAAAA:8 a=aKDSa6vEg1LXiSjfJ5wA:9 a=1o9dEuw74Ukk50TSd13sDhhE7skA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:37138] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 17/C2-07087-AEFDEDC4; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 18:58:51 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 500065A73 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 13:58:50 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] mind map of lojban terms Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 14:58:34 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201011131358.36561.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 13 November 2010 04:47:21 Remo Dentato wrote: > When talking about lojban grammar we use lojban words that, at first, > might be difficult to remember and correlate. > > I've made a small mindmap to remember them: http://www.dentato.com/map1.png > > I would be grateful if you would like to have a look and tell me if > there's anytihng I missed or got wrong. A rafsi isn't a tag, it's a bound morpheme. It's called an affix, but properly speaking that term applies only to some cmavo rafsi such as "sel". A sumtcita is an adposition (all sumtcita in Lojban are prepositions). There are proper prepositions (all of selma'o BAI) and tense markers, which can also be used as prepositions. The word "modal" is misused in the Book; as a linguistic term, it means words like "ka'e". "ziltau" isn't right. "zi'o" deletes one place of a selbri; it doesn't merge two together. I suggest "taurpau". Pierre -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.