From lojban+bncCK7Yk5CUCxD_8vvmBBoEzepRag@googlegroups.com Sat Nov 13 12:48:18 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PHN16-00035y-Ha; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 12:48:17 -0800 Received: by vws14 with SMTP id 14sf2324188vws.16 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 12:48:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=bUj6majkicp5vyGG4n9U6vqapvPKPynyim1NuPXTNLQ=; b=e0vyUGpmChvErIhtN51Pzi+Ocx3TxEYGhPW5Djcvh45Wg1fYZK8hN3AGD8BAPzZ7XI Uj7z6An/LIr/gQzySuwGsq/F62k4FWeRERV+DHVEjMpFBvCBKN70mmBGob2MOHLO+7LU RWo6veC6yvoQK1mEMfLi9+V71YcXhwlk1Z7JU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=HT8Ud2+yFc2PcNs1PxZFKJHFZZO9ggLyfARDLfB+W3EEXVIo3juzRob+KGBydpzO33 CBfo1vx7nQ4UE86mLBLdURdmzbJqMm5BTFIVIwxb+gwYPsftcPTwJvWYLkXRGqphZkoC /1nG+6azYHWhyJdexJN4jWpqA7sJmjJEw2iK0= Received: by 10.220.199.9 with SMTP id eq9mr232850vcb.6.1289681279264; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 12:47:59 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.160.2 with SMTP id l2ls490253vcx.4.p; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 12:47:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.201.11 with SMTP id ey11mr1323354vcb.0.1289681278614; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 12:47:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.201.11 with SMTP id ey11mr1323353vcb.0.1289681278596; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 12:47:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qw0-f48.google.com (mail-qw0-f48.google.com [209.85.216.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id f23si234157vcs.3.2010.11.13.12.47.57; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 12:47:57 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.48 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.48; Received: by qwf7 with SMTP id 7so2374515qwf.21 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 12:47:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.240.66 with SMTP id kz2mr3440378qcb.195.1289681277347; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 12:47:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.226.15 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Nov 2010 12:47:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201011131358.36561.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <201011131358.36561.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:47:57 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] mind map of lojban terms From: Remo Dentato To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.48 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Saturday 13 November 2010 04:47:21 Remo Dentato wrote: > A rafsi isn't a tag, it's a bound morpheme. It's called an affix, but properly > speaking that term applies only to some cmavo rafsi such as "sel". I suspect that the term "bound morpheme" would not work well as reminder. Remember that the intent of a mind map is to quickly recall the different concepts and their main relationships, not to give a full explanation of them. If "tag" is not the proper word, what would work better? > A sumtcita is an adposition (all sumtcita in Lojban are prepositions). There > are proper prepositions (all of selma'o BAI) and tense markers, which can > also be used as prepositions. The word "modal" is misused in the Book; as a > linguistic term, it means words like "ka'e". Does it means that the note "additiona sumti place" is wrong? I'm not sure what an "adposition" is... Could you give a suggestion here? > "ziltau" isn't right. "zi'o" deletes one place of a selbri; it doesn't merge > two together. I suggest "taurpau". I somewhat understood that this was a term already agreed. Could someone shed a light on this? Remo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.