From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCPjv_mBBoEb6VoqA@googlegroups.com Sun Nov 14 03:25:26 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PHahv-0000AP-O7; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 03:25:26 -0800 Received: by wyb38 with SMTP id 38sf3326987wyb.16 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 03:25:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=VkOtDw+53to0wtqhSyutElxpBhLGSWZJG7XWRnJAJPw=; b=pTbbA9lMF7TpG1YfUWdVK5QnjY4u3VfEVZAxMTN0LTx74Xu0yAuCbCnu8OwUGOjM9Z VEIKE2wFHQlzhZRUy+netIevt8Eabx4i+EDkfgcmswi1EvV7EeCG9WhtxTdQ0SZx1VyO v0H8JOfNR98Hv9yjZb7fZPHJQ226CyBlDe93g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=T9WDkFKNTvXQccTAJRaTa4s0obfTDYRqtl730Smlm70nS3hhzihYWMY0DQUiZaPZ08 aqrSwU/fJJFNxtSTf/8Qfei3u6CMHln+1F91+fmyy67eSTcL0jmYlZjRvifgkYMIXRgV PvS0X5Eq2rGYvYTUZjNgGb1BWY6/4K02fQeQA= Received: by 10.216.158.145 with SMTP id q17mr303219wek.29.1289733903016; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 03:25:03 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.3.11 with SMTP id 11ls1675643wbl.3.p; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 03:25:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.146.10 with SMTP id f10mr193955wbv.13.1289733901791; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 03:25:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.146.10 with SMTP id f10mr193954wbv.13.1289733901761; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 03:25:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ww0-f47.google.com (mail-ww0-f47.google.com [74.125.82.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id ep20si1605985wbb.3.2010.11.14.03.25.00; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 03:25:00 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.47; Received: by mail-ww0-f47.google.com with SMTP id 26so5599496wwf.16 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 03:25:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.155.15 with SMTP id q15mr4827059wbw.141.1289733899848; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 03:24:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.138.16 with HTTP; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 03:24:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <201011131358.36561.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 08:24:59 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] mind map of lojban terms From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: > I was under the impression that a cmevla was a word that could only be used > as a name Almost, but not quite. It can also be quoted "zo .aleks.", it can be used to make a lerfu ".aleks. bu", it can be used to make a zei-lujvo: "ka zei .aleks.". But those are special uses. The most common use is as a name, as in "la .aleks." or "doi .aleks". > due to morphological constraints, Not really due to morphological constraints. It's just a syntactic constraint. > usually ending with a consonant, Always, not usually. cmevla always end with a consonant, that's their definition. > but that pretty much anything could be a valid cmene (which is a word used > as a name). Sort of. Only a selbri or a string of cmevla can be used as a name. But pretty much any word can be part of a selbri, if you join it with "zei" to some other word, so in that sense, yes, anything can be a valid name. So "la zei la" can be a name: "la la zei la cu klama lo zarci". But using "la zei la", or things like that, as a name can be slightly confusing. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.