From lojban+bncCIywt_XDCRCk_YDnBBoEg0IqRg@googlegroups.com Sun Nov 14 11:55:30 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PHife-0008Ut-R0; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:55:29 -0800 Received: by gwj20 with SMTP id 20sf4768938gwj.16 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:55:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:message-id:x-ymail-osg:received :x-mailer:date:from:subject:to:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=h6TMkfZOG2Bd+Ei1TXTfvaEe8HW16mNAGcOjpEOdokg=; b=yO4nwboJMjjN1P7zqiQbq4rPUyL5VP/J0ksOVDf4gPptkAZDSew0sz51j1cfW1z4TF EvBVDyjPRkyP+GvrhwqruW08jHGNPur3E9IQCZ9449Zt1QND7ztWT/8GKEaf9J6ZXwk5 RDH0umwrsem6d7qZwOeL5UcUjaGgh1r28PHHY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:x-ymail-osg:x-mailer:date:from :subject:to:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=u3PN53inXtSBCs6S+b40lHzgTfliMQFuRR3fHCUEKW3eN4NEZ3J4rxDglAi9TZ7w81 O2lOMpwMHc9Gel0kw58eYIkrYTaXurLiVM93W7LAZlKTcN0z9Jmy+8qfDgGqj9/+2c8b y+kwmW/f0RvyYD9q2zz+5cYjNzjOQrWIjwUxE= Received: by 10.150.242.4 with SMTP id p4mr481590ybh.68.1289764516919; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:55:16 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.249.20 with SMTP id w20ls2023811ybh.6.p; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:55:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.39.17 with SMTP id r17mr1393833ybj.1.1289764515963; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:55:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.39.17 with SMTP id r17mr1393832ybj.1.1289764515941; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:55:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id p9si711539ybk.4.2010.11.14.11.55.14; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 68.142.199.123 as permitted sender) client-ip=68.142.199.123; Received: (qmail 26337 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Nov 2010 19:55:14 -0000 Message-ID: <350973.16716.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 9gOfVeQVM1l8M0AEJrPSuvYNfRMRfd9P.tnIh.iJgGzMcYG 65AKK8lOT0bLnLhZfBnTVmDw38WuomCO4YwRAiNZqblCIMf4KbOiz1zGb1Cf dN2Xzz71Qz3.iaNGr9wCXfW3gdUhQuvbZx5SfsVNb8TQsk5eZp0.85vz8Vl4 ydPjjmhei_a3uXxAFhjdtgyMQfWYJLtC2bEugUC_3MObF0sugUF.pzuQxwiI aSSi_lO3npmwL95gbAXePSv1CNXtnh0LMgwZWMPhNYPuKjj8wPVcboxsKeae eW86ztq4CTluQYZjSZZn6wi8oCh0gwHdWxvtBcWy.55tJhTca0vEzoe.s3bO iFNFvABGNzyOzw6HX2bNPgHCO1lQzVfBvfzdUU8vJAwHfeb9f6AT5xSZB Received: from [99.92.110.13] by web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:55:14 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/504.5 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:55:14 -0800 (PST) From: John E Clifford Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: mind map of lojban terms To: lojban@googlegroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 68.142.199.123 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I really hate to pick nits, but .... if 'cmevla' is defined by its form ('ends in a consonant') the same should apply to at least 'gismu' and probably 'brivla' and to 'cmavo'. Then an added remark about uses might apply. 'bridi' still mixes words and things: as words, it is a predicate (selbri) with all its arguments(sumti); as things; it describes a relation as holding among the things referred to by the sumti (I'd stick with the words part).So a selbri is just the predicate expression (refers to a relation) in a bridi, sumti are noun phrases (refer to things) in a bridi, a gadri converts a cmevla or nominalized bridi into a sumti. (and, while I'm in critical mode, you don't need 'about' after 'discussing'). ----- Original Message ---- From: Remo Dentato To: lojban Sent: Sun, November 14, 2010 3:07:57 AM Subject: [lojban] Re: mind map of lojban terms Thanks to all for your feedback. I've posted a new version of the map on lojban.org: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=jbo_cheat_sheet You'll find both a high res version for printing and a lowres version for viewing on the screen. Should anyone want to improve the maps, I have included the source file too. It is a Tony Buzan's iMandMap source file, a format that many other mind mapping software are also able to open. Remo. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.