From lojban+bncCIywt_XDCRC-kYHnBBoErgx1Hw@googlegroups.com Sun Nov 14 12:38:36 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PHjLN-0003F9-4l; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:38:36 -0800 Received: by ywj3 with SMTP id 3sf4786567ywj.16 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:38:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:message-id:x-ymail-osg:received :x-mailer:references:date:from:subject:to:in-reply-to:mime-version :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=v10L63cZJI/XLosEdoiaHMoCwonpkQxpPe5FCDsRyfA=; b=PeC767dFwuBTSYu+p6g5HwPgmjZSZJmTVpoAgYTEvKvjg2ch2h2M0ofSQP3241FRaM nMjJxhuF2DzikBhdO0hL2lZCOAQZSQSkIKlBrBLEIgdUENOJXTQez/9beeNIAdkNFsSY 7n+27sAISy0rKWpDBemizCoPu9jtTn7Pm5AJQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:x-ymail-osg:x-mailer:references :date:from:subject:to:in-reply-to:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=my+MPj0SeQmVbo5HuuPyBumXHxOnmHoinAiAsNgqS2tKHqWv0Henl52sAMU4ZMiflt 7B+XxJim+8jDOGx45uinpXclChTYVQ5zBri919gFEQniuc3uh0zb9pG0O7/k+plKhzgD 3NtzoJmUKcdpn8zdpCAcx0wQqYl4lI+JGDteU= Received: by 10.150.72.10 with SMTP id u10mr485938yba.39.1289767102812; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:38:22 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.151.135.18 with SMTP id m18ls2039583ybn.1.p; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:38:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.158.10 with SMTP id g10mr351781ybe.33.1289767101537; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:38:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.158.10 with SMTP id g10mr351780ybe.33.1289767101511; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:38:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.118]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id x21si1260165yhc.1.2010.11.14.12.38.20; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:38:20 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 68.142.199.118 as permitted sender) client-ip=68.142.199.118; Received: (qmail 55365 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Nov 2010 20:38:19 -0000 Message-ID: <889191.54462.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: cGh2RfgVM1l3og8Kds5wQxoOvxz7EaMQM0WBuRDEcy3AvtO 3vc8J9g14DJabMXg.HKlCQ9rQXv_ZCHvw3X5lJAo5bYCRmDANe5_67Iw6OuW Z9jFPLEnN1MhN8jyjhnO6lGgVHjFJPX8OuYw41x0Si9SQaWjkZHeuhjiS.DT K8i0tqRtjJRaNFxM.YThLRcqgqnjMRl_1yMNGEAztbSjOZX83CF5vWRhbqR8 2b35srs7kLPhi97SjlQVyxMD2wL7qK40UhckggetHO8H1gh2kLMSrBtMtgft .fD52OTXQKNbDg6gKpDgvMJU9chuhc7QlUiTAt.w769B.oQhz2CHasojlFhk q1uqhW40.0yX64ZQs6lidFbyGNfZVpTf3HeI5A3qNTRBSB7fdGQPTUGm3Qg- - Received: from [99.92.110.13] by web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:38:19 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/504.5 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <350973.16716.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:38:19 -0800 (PST) From: John E Clifford Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: mind map of lojban terms To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: <350973.16716.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 68.142.199.118 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Before I forget (again), really like the map and most of the points on it, my comments are only about the comments around the points. (Well, I'm not sure that denpa bu and slaka bu serve their own points.) ----- Original Message ---- From: John E Clifford To: lojban@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, November 14, 2010 1:55:14 PM Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: mind map of lojban terms I really hate to pick nits, but .... if 'cmevla' is defined by its form ('ends in a consonant') the same should apply to at least 'gismu' and probably 'brivla' and to 'cmavo'. Then an added remark about uses might apply. 'bridi' still mixes words and things: as words, it is a predicate (selbri) with all its arguments(sumti); as things; it describes a relation as holding among the things referred to by the sumti (I'd stick with the words part).So a selbri is just the predicate expression (refers to a relation) in a bridi, sumti are noun phrases (refer to things) in a bridi, a gadri converts a cmevla or nominalized bridi into a sumti. (and, while I'm in critical mode, you don't need 'about' after 'discussing'). ----- Original Message ---- From: Remo Dentato To: lojban Sent: Sun, November 14, 2010 3:07:57 AM Subject: [lojban] Re: mind map of lojban terms Thanks to all for your feedback. I've posted a new version of the map on lojban.org: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=jbo_cheat_sheet You'll find both a high res version for printing and a lowres version for viewing on the screen. Should anyone want to improve the maps, I have included the source file too. It is a Tony Buzan's iMandMap source file, a format that many other mind mapping software are also able to open. Remo. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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