From lojban+bncCIycn8S8DhDasZXnBBoEf3pZrw@googlegroups.com Thu Nov 18 08:48:43 2010 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PJ7f5-0007Gw-Ev; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:48:43 -0800 Received: by qyk1 with SMTP id 1sf4970688qyk.16 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:48:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=yf0U55dGYO7NBAdvkspstHj66HSUuruP8OjL6qFLl38=; b=2mlNo+LNQHzhHYoZATHjpkP/KrS/XOVjgjmKo/DvBxjkaNJb6V/C45eGCv7WHQx/2I FQyN1FPqH+8Fmnb9e3DvxwSsapRYGkf+FDq5F0O+ie9ttvyhbQXvU3lUaWUS7YzfMNi/ XoOKK30GWb9TDrKg3doAIypnTp3Jhtwwx/zPA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=OlvYX5DLDTpEtm0O5rNX9h1RYlLvx9jn1JAunASYYxc1DBonCEsJy9mI7cX6czSroi czfMxMFjBJfpN8Sp5WGTejIReSVl8+6lJuayAdNsJnadAnbmVvhZ8LYAp30yLZzjEhz9 YiLwj9vyd/u1V3HLc9nANm7sQzvZz+ODm9gGE= Received: by 10.229.2.69 with SMTP id 5mr82035qci.34.1290098906533; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:48:26 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.80.196 with SMTP id u4ls638966qck.0.p; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:48:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.86.74 with SMTP id r10mr93566qcl.12.1290098905007; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:48:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.86.74 with SMTP id r10mr93565qcl.12.1290098904945; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:48:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qw0-f45.google.com (mail-qw0-f45.google.com [209.85.216.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 3si113224qci.6.2010.11.18.08.48.23; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:48:23 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.45; Received: by qwd7 with SMTP id 7so54178qwd.4 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:48:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.81.74 with SMTP id w10mr782412qck.75.1290098897057; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:48:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.219.14 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:48:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201011181119.03664.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <201011181119.03664.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:48:17 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] biodiversity and sequence of quantifiers From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163646d6a87bf75a0495568e80 --00163646d6a87bf75a0495568e80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'll take a stab at it: [fi'o suckancu da] ji'i pi ze lo ro spati poi se terdi ti cu diklo loi papa gugde ku no'u la sralygu'e kujoi la razgu'e kujoi la jugygu'e kujoi la kolombi,as joi la ekuador joi la xingu'e kujoi la bidgu'e kujoi la madagaskar joi la mexygu'e kujoi la pervu'ui zei gugde kujoi la gugdecudu No? --gejyspa On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > I'm doing research on herbs and found this sentence: =93It is also estima= ted > that 70% of the plants existing in the planet occur in only 11 countries: > Australia, Brazil, China, Colombia, Ecuador, India, Indonesia, Madagascar= , > Mexico, Peru, and the Democratic Republic of Congo.=94 In case I > mistranlated, > the original, in Portuguese, is on page 2 of > > http://www.cedeplar.ufmg.br/seminarios/seminario_diamantina/2010/D10A022.= pdf. > How would you state this in Lojban? > > Obviously he means species of plants, not individual plants. An individua= l > plant cannot occur in more than three countries (unless there's a Four > Corners of countries somewhere). But with the quantifiers in that order, > it's > highly unlikely that all species of plants which occur in 11 countries > occur > in the same 11 countries. > > Pierre > -- > Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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I'll take a stab at it:
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[fi'o suckancu da]=A0ji'i pi ze lo ro spati poi se terdi ti cu= diklo loi papa gugde ku no'u la sralygu'e kujoi la razgu'e kuj= oi la jugygu'e kujoi la kolombi,as joi la ekuador joi la xingu'e ku= joi la bidgu'e kujoi la madagaskar joi la mexygu'e kujoi la pervu&#= 39;ui zei gugde kujoi la=A0 gugdecudu
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On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Pierre Abbat <= span dir=3D"ltr"><phma@phma.optus.= nu> wrote:
I'm doing research on herbs = and found this sentence: =93It is also estimated
that 70% of the plants = existing in the planet occur in only 11 countries:
Australia, Brazil, China, Colombia, Ecuador, India, Indonesia, Madagascar,<= br>Mexico, Peru, and the Democratic Republic of Congo.=94 =A0In case I mist= ranlated,
the original, in Portuguese, is on page 2 of
http://www.cedeplar.ufmg.br/seminarios/seminario_diamanti= na/2010/D10A022.pdf .
How would you state this in Lojban?

Obviously he means species of pl= ants, not individual plants. An individual
plant cannot occur in more th= an three countries (unless there's a Four
Corners of countries somew= here). But with the quantifiers in that order, it's
highly unlikely that all species of plants which occur in 11 countries occu= r
in the same 11 countries.

Pierre
--
Don't buy a Frenc= h car in Holland. It may be a citroen.

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