From lojban+bncCJrK5PGGEBDKy5jnBBoEDGMcKA@googlegroups.com Thu Nov 18 23:23:07 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PJLJG-0002oQ-NI; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:23:07 -0800 Received: by wwb34 with SMTP id 34sf2153052wwb.16 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:22:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:from:organization:to :subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :x-interia-antivirus:x-emid:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=IvzhWnwGK9WDU46XqR0tIWY45L9Wg676lADG8Z2TzQE=; b=Hi1zOkWP2YtPt/t1rR/5Nf5I4aEz6xlsBbSN88Y/CDzSfnWvOrFL6qWDiNe1BtsG6N E4iPeuFpZWyuQGvpobaib2+L/fBSidvqHVvhgQGEjBtaGVnd1zA+qHmC59ISPhirbTqg 105rqY9T64g/B/6sv0gvoIAtfm0iXFEivfMas= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:organization:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:x-interia-antivirus:x-emid :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; b=BMwntiWBaIcESdnHvvGCZKLeNrOAxofsr8RUCCXtrtvpDREy9JpWMMwPCXXEKW5w0i uVCf9WSyEoYeGKpu+iD1fTozD2+davayB/OVSPcml1wgymJEHVCopmu18TUNpIKKpf0E 0FJw7m99UVSIY8qem3osaKPHSEbfZRFVl707g= Received: by 10.217.3.203 with SMTP id r53mr230758wes.6.1290151370709; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:22:50 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.123.10 with SMTP id u10ls904557eeh.2.p; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:22:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.119.1 with SMTP id m1mr359675eeh.12.1290151368689; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:22:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.119.1 with SMTP id m1mr359674eeh.12.1290151368671; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:22:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpo.poczta.interia.pl (smtpo.poczta.interia.pl [217.74.65.206]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id r17si412105eeh.7.2010.11.18.23.22.48; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:22:48 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jezuch@interia.pl designates 217.74.65.206 as permitted sender) client-ip=217.74.65.206; Received: by smtpo.poczta.interia.pl (INTERIA.PL, from userid 502) id 650AB105ACC5; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:22:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from zx-spectrum-1.localnet (c204.idd156.nettete.pl [77.79.204.156]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by poczta.interia.pl (INTERIA.PL) with ESMTPSA for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:22:46 +0100 (CET) From: Krzysztof Sobolewski Organization: Sobole To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Fwd: Re: Re: New language: lojban Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:29:43 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.36-hugepage; KDE/4.4.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <90e6ba53aa46e9d9b9049542c2a8@google.com> <9f838b31-e959-41d3-aa04-c1599ea84916@d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart8724601.yUiPL6piQe"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201011190829.52883.jezuch@interia.pl> X-Interia-Antivirus: OK X-EMID: bdd48acc X-Original-Sender: jezuch@interia.pl X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jezuch@interia.pl designates 217.74.65.206 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jezuch@interia.pl Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , --nextPart8724601.yUiPL6piQe Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dnia czwartek, 18 listopada 2010 o 08:57:49 Remo Dentato napisa=B3(a): > > - {ti noi broda} vs. {lo vi broda} (and same with ta/va and tu/vu). > I agree that we shouldn't have two translations (one with {ti} and the > other with {vi}) but I would not prefer one over the other. I would > rather let the transator decide. Isn't the "pointing" property of {ti} an important distinction between the = two? I would'nt say these two forms are exchangeable... =2D-=20 Ecce Jezuch "'Help me Jesus, help me clean my wounds' He said he cannot heal that kind" - P. Keenan --nextPart8724601.yUiPL6piQe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkzmJ2cACgkQy0fq9RM+TxiFNwCgnyJmU5c9mmaM6qbDjfRd1xnC siUAn3ka3OwAPquPR4kSu7vqEGMSs0Wo =TxbT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart8724601.yUiPL6piQe--