From lojban+bncCK30vq5WEPrdnOcEGgSHGGR4@googlegroups.com Fri Nov 19 18:14:31 2010 Received: from mail-pv0-f189.google.com ([74.125.83.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PJcyD-0003bT-3s; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 18:14:31 -0800 Received: by pvh1 with SMTP id 1sf396517pvh.16 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 18:14:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:mime-version:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; bh=5GUWHqkrabTsr0NThmM/7XWjyruvZvCkUoYqRKoTuwA=; b=jLmkO5LIoJw+ZCMeXPKxekSVnBa78E1eYfDghlTDOLeAlEPWm0esJ52rTgUWVPR+i9 FtBzwwyTUcldLVELK77z+s76F7olQtnNrjaaKgGHZlWM+ctV9LGFP5/QxwuBXxY77POt wlF35WRz+ZnyRkqcaHJVjXcuO/VCEzAZooJIw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:mime-version:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=M2jCUSsONb65dcl9lH3FFqgHdjTbiGb1BR0v1uIVIOUoWqgTlociGmKboWHJ93R8CM YQXTzw5yjBlAN4FpcXOA+NDZmAKO8qlpVTQqfgy/+DYX7VUX6FWK4o5ynI5G1ma8JuN2 59ysSoYFk2vjPJSQDYca482bW+IKdYW5qh96w= Received: by 10.142.250.2 with SMTP id x2mr153311wfh.30.1290219258093; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 18:14:18 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.6.9 with SMTP id 9ls5054451wff.3.p; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 18:14:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.156.5 with SMTP id d5mr1673820wfe.71.1290219256952; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 18:14:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.156.5 with SMTP id d5mr1673819wfe.71.1290219256926; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 18:14:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id n6si3308463wfl.3.2010.11.19.18.14.16; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 18:14:16 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of nobody@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PJcy0-0003bO-2e for lojban@googlegroups.com; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 18:14:16 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PJcxz-0003bF-VO for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2010 18:14:16 -0800 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 18:14:15 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Idea for a Lojbanic text toy Message-ID: <20101120021415.GH9301@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of nobody@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nobody@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Just an idea that showed up in my head as I was thinking about what I wanted the Lojban community to get out of a MUD (that it didn't). It's somewhat unformed, but the basic idea is a textual toy that you could use as an IRC bot or something; it's sorta-kinda based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blocks_world and the fact that Lojban is really easily parseable and has some predicate logic underpinnings. Oh, and the idea of a nomic. The basic idea is this: seed a bot with a Lojban parser and a *VERY* few rules about semantics, and then let people add to its knowledge in mostly-unstructured Lojban. The bot has an idea of objects, and relationships, and properties, and as people converse with it is builds up a world that exists only as textual description, and is solely a result of what people have said. Something like this: A: doi .bat. mo .bat.: no da A: pa bolci cu zasti .bat.: bolci ki'a A: da bolci lo ckabu .bat.: ki'e A A: pa bolci cu zasti .bat.: ki'e A A: doi .bat. mo (you'd want your bot to direct the results of "mo" to privmsg, cuz it's gonna get long) .bat.: le pa moi bolci A: le pa moi bolci cu bolci ma .bat.: lo ckabu B: doi .bat. da bolci lo ckabu .o nai lo djacu .bat.: ki'e B B: le pa moi bolci cu bolci ma .bat.: mi na djuno This is almost certainly wrong in terms of final implementation; in particular, "A: da bolci lo ckabu" doesn't say that it's defining bolci or anything. But I think something interesting could be made, where eventually you'd have something like a set of pure predicate rules that would lead to the ball of water and the ball of fire coming together and annihilating each other. Or whatever crazy-ass silliness people want to create. At that point you could then construct a *very* silly game on top of it of the form "be the first person to make the bot emit {le mi sigja cu culno so'i tatru}", or something. -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.