From lojban+bncCMLaiI6rCBDshqXnBBoE6xEg4g@googlegroups.com Sun Nov 21 08:06:21 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PKCQj-0003C2-FN; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 08:06:21 -0800 Received: by gwj20 with SMTP id 20sf4691473gwj.16 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 08:06:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received :mime-version:received:received:date:x-ip:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=nrOtTS5/0N46x1m+GRHD/h4bYOlLU9JhxWoPjesbxpI=; b=Vkfk49OfdoDfGXHG4uoJYIQPa1t237Fvd8xKzKWfaKLwLJ/wdylRMX9msPkbZo9xhb cICNiVoT3Yw1LKiGF7bGdOvcrOlztMUJWTHjp92X7/Gn3f0ZdaUy7SIIjENVSknICHi+ SHEuccY3sQlnVkhF4lL5Xlt9bUUWZ/nScczQ4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:x-ip:user-agent:x-http-useragent :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=nZ2L9etZCDybKE8gXhjvOe9noZ96qu/oTcOVc4yaghUU/ZWVgMeQtUhmAKz7evP59a 0FJWZ5qNHbauctlR9LFCOS95pRGJHSwdf9gKNMWCGZxmny2HGvKjfuwwq0z9SGWUNwu7 0SlImuGUDKaIw00amgnhmzuNGkgBwKyGfxvks= Received: by 10.151.62.39 with SMTP id p39mr447810ybk.7.1290355564842; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 08:06:04 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.56.35 with SMTP id e35ls1234104yba.5.p; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 08:06:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.96.2 with SMTP id t2mr1163074ybb.12.1290355563637; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 08:06:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.129.5 with SMTP id b5mr127843and.71.1290287197014; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:06:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:06:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:06:36 -0800 (PST) X-IP: 87.206.36.220 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.7 (KHTML, like Gecko) Ubuntu/10.10 Chromium/7.0.517.44 Chrome/7.0.517.44 Safari/534.7,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Does {na nei} work like that? From: ianek To: lojban X-Original-Sender: janek37@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 coi {na nei} should work like {na go'i}. According to LLC 15.9, {na} replaces previous negation, not negates it. Just like this: A: i le vi karce na crino B: i na go'i A: this car isn't green B: it isn't So {na nei} should mean "this negative statement is indeed true", or I'm awfully wrong. mu'o mi'e ianek -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.