From lojban+bncCMHmq66BAhCoyqbnBBoE_N-Vdw@googlegroups.com Sun Nov 21 15:03:28 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PKIwF-0001rI-O5; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 15:03:27 -0800 Received: by gxk1 with SMTP id 1sf4984793gxk.16 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 15:03:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:received:received:date:from :to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version :in-reply-to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0dZJb4WF3ENhOAPCZ2a9KSK11FCqspi3D8y7Hy2CEMs=; b=YHqGaVeZhdtk317viIjDnpVc5TKZiuzvdv+l7EPnJcSiEcUD4SWvCImXR/y5iszjhT 6tIRewobgY9/Mwx0bENIcQhRdCpHzeBV9+FQaGIpfgDR/rxmmE6Bianp4Co1XiAO2zvO jiSahNHS3f8WjbXMEGvckHqavyRlmz0HGteEc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; b=F8H6he2g3W5SOGsR5mZ/mW17E+lUARFc5eTwtGT3guk4X2NF5aSsK5akLNU6ZyCw5i FCWYO4UnwIELC4QxXxBQCHDzRB4U1odniYf2uEN4trPtFP0PH036YBRsoteur+JKaa5N DnrdeUVl6D5/QCw89wA5ArPg7VAruoafApxSo= Received: by 10.150.167.3 with SMTP id p3mr485826ybe.65.1290380584141; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 15:03:04 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.151.133.8 with SMTP id k8ls2570185ybn.4.p; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 15:03:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.97.4 with SMTP id u4mr1298571ybb.6.1290380583622; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 15:03:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.139.8 with SMTP id m8mr1296967ybd.57.1290380381703; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 14:59:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.139.8 with SMTP id m8mr1296966ybd.57.1290380381670; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 14:59:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gw0-f45.google.com (mail-gw0-f45.google.com [74.125.83.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id p19si615252ybk.2.2010.11.21.14.59.41; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 14:59:41 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 74.125.83.45 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) client-ip=74.125.83.45; Received: by gwj22 with SMTP id 22so726485gwj.18 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 14:59:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.48.9 with SMTP id a9mr7834032ybk.150.1290380380732; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 14:59:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunflowerriver.org (c-68-35-167-179.hsd1.nm.comcast.net [68.35.167.179]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f23sm1515895ybh.10.2010.11.21.14.59.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 21 Nov 2010 14:59:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 15:59:36 -0700 From: Alan Post To: Lojban List Subject: [lojban] Re: [lojban-announcements] Re: Lojban Web Programming Help? Message-ID: <20101121225935.GC5638@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: Lojban List References: <20101120001959.GE9301@digitalkingdom.org> <3bef85c9-8913-473d-b979-78631e81546e@q36g2000vbi.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: alanpost@sunflowerriver.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 74.125.83.45 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 02:52:27PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: >=20 > Followups to the main list. >=20 >=20 > On Nov 21, 2:37=A0pm, Robin Lee Powell > wrote: > > OK, first pass at results is athttp://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/media/regula= r/lojban_survey.PNG >=20 > Wrong link. I suck. Sorry. >=20 > http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/media/regular/lojban_survey.PNG >=20 > Also, here they are in order: >=20 >=20 > Haskell, Snap 48.3% 14 > Python, Django 41.4% 12 > Ruby On Rails 37.9% 11 > Python, Pylons 34.5% 10 > Python, Flask 31.0% 9 > Common Lisp, Weblocks 27.6% 8 > PHP, Cake 24.1% 7 > CL/UnCommon Web 20.7% 6 > Haskell/happstack 20.7% 6 > PHP, Smarty 20.7% 6 > Lisp On Lines 17.2% 5 > Clojure/Compojure 13.8% 4 > Perl, Catalyst 13.8% 4 > Ur/Web 13.8% 4 > Factor/Furnace 10.3% 3 > Perl, Dancer 10.3% 3 > Python, Zope 10.3% 3 > Scheme, Awful 10.3% 3 > Racket (AKA PLT Scheme) 6.9% 2 > Arc 0.0% 0 > Erlang 0.0% 0 >=20 I'm moderately surprised that Haskell ranked so highly. I'm not as surprised to see Python and Ruby making a strong appearance. I've encountered a fair number of Lojbanists in the Lisp/Scheme world, which was actually the pathway that got me into Lojban, so I haven't considered it insanely unusual. I don't think Lisp would rank so highly outside of Lojbanistan. And I'm still curious who the other two people voting for Scheme and the Awful framework are. That's a lot of web programmers, btw. I'm actually surprised by that. What is the count of survey takers? -Alan --=20 .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.