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To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Gaming achievement systems applied to Lojban learning Message-ID: <20101122212909.GA9357@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <5c8407d6-86ae-4261-a876-3a79df6655e9@26g2000yqv.googlegroups.com> <20101122160858.GA7779@alice.local> <20101122192200.GC9301@digitalkingdom.org> <2191bc09-12e1-4607-b048-78fd9bcf0d32@a30g2000vbt.googlegroups.com> <20101122211022.GF9301@digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20101122211022.GF9301@digitalkingdom.org> X-Original-Sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.213.53 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 01:10:23PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 01:08:36PM -0800, Lindar wrote: > > I found Lojbanquest confusing and unplayable. =\ > > Do you mean timos's totally unfinished mockup? :) That doesn't > have an actual game in it yet? Or my mud-based version, which was > even worse? > > > RE: Why it didn't go anywhere... > > > > I think you're implying here that it's a bad idea... >_> > > Assuming you're responding to Alan, I doubt that very much; I don't > think he works like that. I think he was asking for suggestions on > how to make things better. > Yes, that is correct. I'm actually very engaged by the idea, and working with it has been a very interesting learning experience for me. The idea has come up at least twice now, from two separate people who probably were not aware that the other person also had the idea. As Lindar said of his suggestion, it never went anywhere. I was specifically playing "Investigate"[1] because I'd like to understand why it never went anywhere. -Alan 1: http://c0redump.org/core_protocol/investigate/ > -Robin > > -- > http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot > is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" > is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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