From lojban+bncCK7Yk5CUCxCk07DnBBoEt5J0Dw@googlegroups.com Tue Nov 23 12:53:10 2010 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PKzrK-0003Ya-Ad; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:53:10 -0800 Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16sf1409590fxm.16 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:52:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :message-id:date:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=tMm6AgLBCLMlLpbGtPwtyrSrycApOyC6AmNYXLB/IPc=; b=D111ZE3qezBAuRNb3HCSIJLN2yPU7tz4udD10T19UBeAUtvmyDIF9uGtOyHbB9Hwg0 dJ49Hb8V1ESpz0woFwnbEV6x392ecRIX5ZJIftAgB0hVVwnrafllTvut/tpk80mR25Qf xqPSldQ8Bu7z3ZcbL3v+ZXPbI1eW8HucSG8C0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:message-id:date :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=zhs7X7yWo2bEyUEdO/hq4Tyu+irRRcxXYTFcIBgDfJ8HxzoGO/cq0+8dtnV6gdXqOC 6cUEpPTi5DqNWLX5zOU6H1TFbzUqVACx1uIClOr57zxjwtY3B6M1LH6G9IbPCBMLkZk2 xuJAsxyPAUVOQ5xTpsHMiEcaQq6iS2DYF8BC4= Received: by 10.223.83.130 with SMTP id f2mr443258fal.36.1290545572409; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:52:52 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.32.79 with SMTP id b15ls3053458bkd.0.p; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:52:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.82.140 with SMTP id b12mr747899bkl.5.1290545571155; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:52:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.82.140 with SMTP id b12mr747898bkl.5.1290545571109; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:52:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f72.google.com (mail-bw0-f72.google.com [209.85.214.72]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id g13si529462fah.2.2010.11.23.12.52.51; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:52:51 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.72 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.72; Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so1687242bwz.11 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:52:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.114.4 with SMTP id c4mr271392ebq.13.1290545570584; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:52:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <142663.23085.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0015174c3d4a4d1ded0495be8e1d@google.com> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:52:50 +0000 Subject: Re: Re: [lojban] Summary table of discourse indicators From: rdentato@gmail.com To: lojban X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.72 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c3d4a4d1dcf0495be8e1a --0015174c3d4a4d1dcf0495be8e1a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Nov 23, 2010 9:31pm, John E Clifford wrote: > Nice, since these buggers give me more trouble than just about anything > else. > BUT There is little (no?) indication of the various semantic and pragmatic > roles that these indicators play. Very true. Like the other cheat sheets this is intended as a support for memorization and explanation, rather than contaning the explanation itself. This means that they are useful when you're learning, you know about the emotionals and their use but, for example, can't remember how to express a speicific emotion or just need a quick way to remember what {.iinairu'e} means. I hope they can also be helpful for people teaching lojban that could have something to pass to their students. Actually the first one I made was more intended to be a quick summary about space/time with some more explanation. I might go back to that style when I'll feel I'll understand enough about lojban to be able to explain things. remo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0015174c3d4a4d1dcf0495be8e1a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Nov 23, 2010 9:31pm, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:=
> Nice, since these buggers give me more trouble than just about a= nything else.
> BUT =A0There is little (no?) indication of the vari= ous semantic and pragmatic
> roles that these indicators play.

Very true. Like the other cheat sheets this is intended as a support= for memorization and explanation, rather than contaning the explanation it= self.
This means that they are useful when you're learning, you kn= ow about the emotionals and their use but, for example, can't remember = how to express a speicific emotion or just need a quick way to remember wha= t {.iinairu'e} means.

I hope they can also be helpful for pe= ople teaching lojban that could have something to pass to their students.
Actually the first one I made was more intended to be a quick sum= mary about space/time with some more explanation. I might go back to that s= tyle when I'll feel I'll understand enough about lojban to be able = to explain things.

remo

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