From lojban+bncCML0xpmUARDbhrHnBBoEQqoyKg@googlegroups.com Tue Nov 23 14:42:51 2010 Received: from mail-pv0-f189.google.com ([74.125.83.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PL1ZU-0002vM-Il; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:42:51 -0800 Received: by pvh1 with SMTP id 1sf754125pvh.16 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:42:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=sBqOC0kctchsHrHITSepnYopPOv+FmyDdbJtzHkLluY=; b=SuBriMdp2+wCR1nEIvxrOZZDqxdJ4hpZP0es3divnxQH7TzUcx7ETGNf7DyNun56zE GR3zwzrNkq5i3nZfYiGPgh9RbNfCUKx+hrA2huoJ5ow0TLRJ5tZyfY9UTZnNUpv6Sb3T +5YKeRduxdLdiD2Nkft22GhhE6BY/0kUy+36k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=udtjd2tGW+ZSsfDZsYYj7vMJyUkXR60ZAav75ijQSYoztgzSQhu/YTj0PBrYeKqHrB 400unMFbIXFK/V41DvDgegj/DyFcY4Tb5SEbyHBFQ6TZ/Ww1c6aCOqNyQW0e/xzyAUeI mNSU5DMfS3WavO4FDNsNj+M48Muxj6BfElBdg= Received: by 10.142.65.9 with SMTP id n9mr429981wfa.14.1290552155988; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:42:35 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.249.41 with SMTP id w41ls324543wfh.1.p; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:42:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.164.13 with SMTP id m13mr5007817wfe.20.1290552155037; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:42:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.164.13 with SMTP id m13mr5007816wfe.20.1290552155003; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:42:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-px0-f170.google.com (mail-px0-f170.google.com [209.85.212.170]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id y8si9636016wfj.1.2010.11.23.14.42.33; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:42:33 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.170 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.170; Received: by pxi19 with SMTP id 19so2594783pxi.29 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:42:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.131.17 with SMTP id e17mr7551360wfd.320.1290552153830; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:42:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.86.1 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:42:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:42:33 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Describing a predicate as a predicate From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd29c8eb174030495c016be --000e0cd29c8eb174030495c016be Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Is there a way to take a selbri and make a sumti that is not "an x1 of broda" but simply "broda"; like "broda is interesting", having not to do with an event, proposition, etc. of broda, but just the predicate itself, as an abstract concept? About the only idea I have is to use {lo selbri be fa zo broda} which seems like a pretty terrible way of doing it. mu'o mi'e latros. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --000e0cd29c8eb174030495c016be Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there a way to take a selbri and make a sumti that is not "an x1 of= broda" but simply "broda"; like "broda is interesting&= quot;, having not to do with an event, proposition, etc. of broda, but just= the predicate itself, as an abstract concept? About the only idea I have i= s to use {lo selbri be fa zo broda} which seems like a pretty terrible way = of doing it.

mu'o mi'e latros.

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