From lojban+bncCIywt_XDCRCM-cHmBBoE5Gtfmg@googlegroups.com Tue Nov 02 14:03:25 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PDO0k-00062G-DZ; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 14:03:23 -0700 Received: by gyd5 with SMTP id 5sf11740575gyd.16 for ; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 14:03:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:message-id:x-ymail-osg:received :x-mailer:references:date:from:subject:to:in-reply-to:mime-version :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=9DG+xiBAUeq12Va77ILkJrs2LshHlUYVgl4fbs2C0wk=; b=cppD9TXYNu3/tODmmJB/XDCP3t6UBX1j9eL7tdBOy8vsxy0mbGexZ6YCq7KeFgcacp UcPjIY9KRB8qicwGTfUfQR4rAKQbmc2cjsya1lAr4k9m4w33nHYk3pcAAqTwHaskegvr 1dy7eEOt/3O+HbC2Gs9u0HG/gh6EtnkZSQh1g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:x-ymail-osg:x-mailer:references :date:from:subject:to:in-reply-to:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=K0h0EgSYMjK1v62SzFgVFUhF53jcl+PHQ5oAEEHMrjmI1CdF7sjSxRbNtfVgCn4Y3J wXphKi2mQH+mpWyPDHWfG9JZ3zL931+rKZiBbT5UEuJaFl/aubn96nAp/a6tMyu2xDLu sAetGdl+riawXpc41u60o5kdDgq4ia2nLJbUc= Received: by 10.90.115.18 with SMTP id n18mr224361agc.58.1288731788450; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 14:03:08 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.90.62.37 with SMTP id k37ls95589aga.2.p; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 14:03:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.2.12 with SMTP id 12mr1021317agb.14.1288731787755; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 14:03:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.2.12 with SMTP id 12mr1021316agb.14.1288731787745; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 14:03:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.117]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id g4si200500yha.3.2010.11.02.14.03.06; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 14:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 68.142.199.117 as permitted sender) client-ip=68.142.199.117; Received: (qmail 4496 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Nov 2010 21:03:06 -0000 Message-ID: <999027.4067.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: gddmhZUVM1nKkB63ld7IdN_SSxk9v.Q5boXUl3S7rw45tAJ AGYL08shrRZw7QKNd_6mhjIIbHiTCI5tKIuI2kB5VPA9MCWWVoCfbMX5HVYU tZhofKqqk_nbPVPcid2Kp1fPsqooQZwCDvnB5CZjnDwWbfqcTFfnKo1sC4Kd s.O9VHBtv17jYhg5nU4dnHlwQpeAvS6ETe4TPfuF26ZIigYguWhPljluETxL H3V9kUBL8NR5d3JCRMZmeMarE1xcojCFnUXAD1zmSEliS_Tr1goBwV4o658C nLf3Hii6uzcuwu0ofOqVCS5qemvbV00USaHokatnujZlBdOr8jGjn8czYwe7 3lrU09Y_Y0RlNVuZmqu93sM91kNTPLsU2GdoPuKB9VUAvnC8- Received: from [99.92.110.13] by web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 14:03:05 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/504.5 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.284920 References: <20101102040903.GA10493@alice.local> <4e1aec20-2d77-4473-a6e3-780700105315@v20g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <924334.40683.qm@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20101102191856.GE10792@alice.local> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 14:03:05 -0700 (PDT) From: John E Clifford Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: mi kakne lo bajra To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 68.142.199.117 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Right. The problem is that terms are not marked for animateness. or any other relevant category. The Battle of Waterloo is an event, but you can't tell that from its Lojban name, which looks pretty much like "The town of Waterloo" or the name of an honest pub, "the bucket of loo water." Some places have no restrictions, x2 (or is it x3?) of 'tavla' for instance, since we can talk about anything, and the same is probably true of what a picture is a picture of or what a piece of music is about and so, Others have a fairly broad range, where it might be easier to say what "can't" go there. And, as the discussion about 'djica' shows, sometimes the very wrong thing turns up and is perfectly sensible -- if not always transparently. ----- Original Message ---- From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 3:38:56 PM Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: mi kakne lo bajra On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > My only question is, will we also be marking x1 of {gerku} as being an > animal? lo gerku are animals, lo se skari are colors, you ve skina movies, > citka food, pilno tools, djuno facts, and djica events. > It is nonsensical to say {la tam cu gerku} if {tam} is a block of wood. Oh? I think "la tam cu se kelci gerku" works just fine if tam is a block of wood. --gejyspa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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