Well, this raises the interesting OT issue of what exactly som= ething like "peekaboo" is linguistically. It seems to be related to "= taDA" and magicians' exclamations when the the trick comes off, but it seem= s to have a bit more content than some attention getter in COI, since the s= eeing is vital. And, of course, I am not sure what the linguistic sta= tus of the supposedly similar things is either. Come to think of it, = there is a double seeing here -- the child sees the parent again and the pa= rent sees the child ("I see you" maybe left over from its origin in a hide-= and-seek game). "Surprise" seems to be a totally different sort of th= ing. Or maybe no so different: it too is used to announce the completion of= a trick (even if the recipient is not surprised). But it clearly is not, as this note implies, a case of the speaker empathetically experie= ncing the emotion of the recipient -- the speaker, a part of the party, is = not surprised. He might be joyful and also experience some empathetic= joy with the recipient, but that isn't surprise. I'd be happy to hear more= suggestions about this.
I would not be happy to see cmavo used to indic= ate emotions of a third party not empathized by the speaker.

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From: Luke Bergen <lukeab= ergen@gmail.com>
To:= "lojban-list@lojban.org" <lojban-list@lojban.org>
Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 12:45:47 PM
Subject: [lojban] T= ime for the perenial other-centric-.ui conversation

That's actually not what I intend but it is what will inevitably happen.=

I was talking to my wife who is perpetually freezing and at one point I = remembered somehing and wanted to say "oh yeah! Your dad said he was = going to make a fire tonight _____". Where "______" was that cool new= cmavo of COI that takes a UI before it and somehow applies it to the objec= t of the COI. I've searched around but must be using the wrong search= terms. Anybody remember what I'm talking about?

What I'm trying to express is something like what you want to express wh= en you play peekaboo with a baby. It's like some kind of .uadai like = "surprise!" But it's not a command or an observation, but more of lik= e an expectation. Almost like a .uipeikau if that makes any sense?

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