From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCN7sXnBBoERP_raw@googlegroups.com Sat Nov 27 13:24:47 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PMSG7-0003uI-9H; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 13:24:46 -0800 Received: by gxk19 with SMTP id 19sf2632086gxk.16 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 13:24:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=o/EBuODXwxfP7LrsryQ0HMKgUB+aXift600iei47+BA=; b=cFHKaTqFVLpy8VHfC02Mtu5EkOH3E0BuVpeUpzNnx3KAJlwaa7aN0glGPrBuqYrJDQ ZtxEnrMBQfbu8HoAuoRPiRqcgU0NYLBPDhyqXCSmXDw8qJrVLjEUWB79dp/6aILi+Jvc Mz1C4zdKnvZNGfTpB0bnpRToI7bEXIfYfo3mw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=rvayWVVZtUKp72TdnCOTiE1AgC2/BGnuoBuc0E0dtkDOclME1uLvWYfPViTs0bKPkQ REUMbTbm+taGvdMPrveFh1v7SBO3GRJ25l5dZSToMCm9E/u1wuxkikL5p0uca/0y3noo Jmrorlx38jJximWXVvkSvErxu/l3kZLqFUV0I= Received: by 10.91.109.14 with SMTP id l14mr319763agm.21.1290893069498; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 13:24:29 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.19.201 with SMTP id c9ls1344028ibb.1.p; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 13:24:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.37.137 with SMTP id x9mr790961ibd.2.1290893068627; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 13:24:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.37.137 with SMTP id x9mr790960ibd.2.1290893068578; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 13:24:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f180.google.com (mail-iw0-f180.google.com [209.85.214.180]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id b32si1291448ibq.5.2010.11.27.13.24.27; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 13:24:27 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.180 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.180; Received: by iwn37 with SMTP id 37so4134347iwn.25 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 13:24:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.10.193 with SMTP id q1mr3275798ibq.70.1290893065258; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 13:24:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.199.206 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 13:24:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.199.206 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 13:24:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <492732.93430.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <696303.3339.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 16:24:25 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Time for the perenial other-centric-.ui conversation From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.180 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0022152d60cd99074404960f767e --0022152d60cd99074404960f767e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oh, from vlasisku I thought that the /preceding/ UI was what was dai'ed to the DOIed person. E.g. "mi viska do .ue da'oi la .remo." for "I see you aren't you surprised la remo" vs "mi viska do .ue doi la .remo." -> "I see you (surprised that it's /you/), remo" On Nov 27, 2010 4:17 PM, "Remo Dentato" wrote: > On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: >> So just for clarification from other users of da'oi, am I doing it right? Or >> should I just start using {.oipeikau} (dunno why I hadn't thought of that >> before). > > I've not used {da'oi} yet but being of selma'o DOI I expect I'll use it like: > > {mi viska da'oi .liuk. .ue } > > to indicate that you were surprise that I had seen you, and > > {mi viska doi .liuk. .ue } > > to indicate that I was surprised to see you. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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Oh, from vlasisku I thought that the /preceding/ UI was what was dai'= ;ed to the DOIed person.=A0 E.g. "mi viska do .ue da'oi la .remo.&= quot; for "I see you aren't you surprised la remo" vs "m= i viska do .ue doi la .remo."=A0 -> "I see you (surprised that= it's /you/), remo"

On Nov 27, 2010 4:17 PM, "Remo Dentato"= ; <rdentato@gmail.com> wrot= e:
> On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Luke Berg= en <lukeabergen@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
>> So just for clarification from other users of da'oi, am I doin= g it right? Or
>> should I just start using {.oipeikau} (dunno why= I hadn't thought of that
>> before).
>
> I'v= e not used {da'oi} yet but being of selma'o DOI I expect I'll u= se it like:
>
> {mi viska da'oi .liuk. .ue }
>
> to indicate= that you were surprise that I had seen you, and
>
> {mi viska= doi .liuk. .ue }
>
> to indicate that I was surprised to see = you.
>
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