From lojban+bncCML0xpmUARC3ocLmBBoE1ieOnQ@googlegroups.com Tue Nov 02 15:29:25 2010 Received: from mail-pv0-f189.google.com ([74.125.83.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PDPM1-0004cl-NJ; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 15:29:25 -0700 Received: by pvh1 with SMTP id 1sf393756pvh.16 for ; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 15:29:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=y93yAsPLR9Kj0wsckZMJkMMKN4e2sC6LBQQgAbguN40=; b=1DfNb9f1/mfoeQfjJOcVQ7LWhuCgU9DjnvjyREyR48InHNvH8FUjkfOXBadswOCv6w V/oSME1dMxU00+2WnDKpQcGlbid1iDffU9C87H5GrfPwyjf8O03EvR0AsvaRShK1I5so 0gm6JQOT4jM0t08ivP0pmYwUGvYVwPKzc2A+I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=cAVtfS3D+neSNWIywGvmNtM2DICDow8SriMlvU6ivkKN05LsXBHHalpKvd8DjtjoLU xxUqzqHVuRI/Kw8KwmKRc7aLy599mS6p47QLgmvoHOdjBcnz0w15nZ6K5Qb5xl46EgQe o0TdMn1YoPDBYrV9CVGxhD0tdf6sLwjuXCbZ4= Received: by 10.142.150.10 with SMTP id x10mr313967wfd.21.1288736951970; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 15:29:11 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.6.9 with SMTP id 9ls726185wff.3.p; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 15:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.199.7 with SMTP id w7mr4744430wff.15.1288736950851; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 15:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.199.7 with SMTP id w7mr4744429wff.15.1288736950812; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 15:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pw0-f50.google.com (mail-pw0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id y8si13496625wfj.1.2010.11.02.15.29.09; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 15:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.50 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.50; Received: by pwi4 with SMTP id 4so1628937pwi.9 for ; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 15:29:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.199.18 with SMTP id w18mr1574823wff.336.1288736949637; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 15:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.71.13 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 15:29:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <407677.11990.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:29:09 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] A summary on 'djica' etc. From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd32d8c1793480494197475 --000e0cd32d8c1793480494197475 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's a generic abstractor, the zo'e or co'e of NU. Note that {nu} is in thi= s terminology also an abstractor. mu'o mi'e latros. 2010/11/2 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Ian Johnson > wrote: > > ...Gah, random gripe: give {su'u} some love! > > I don't know how "su'u" works. The example in CLL is: > > ko zgana le su'u le ci smacu cu bajra > "See how the three mice run!" > > So "su'u" is being used for "nu tai ma kau". > > The other gloss "you [imperative] observe the abstract-nature-of the > three mice running" makes little sense to me since I don't think > there's anything very abstract about three mice running. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --000e0cd32d8c1793480494197475 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's a generic abstractor, the zo'e or co'e of NU. Note that {n= u} is in this terminology also an abstractor.

mu'o m= i'e latros.

2010/11/2 Jorge Llamb=EDa= s <jjllambias@= gmail.com>
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11= :03 AM, Ian Johnson <blindbrav= ado@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...Gah, random gripe: give {su'u} some love!

I don't know how "su'u" works. The example in CLL i= s:

=A0 =A0ko zgana le su'u le ci smacu cu bajra
=A0 =A0"See how the three mice run!"

So "su'u" is being used for "nu tai ma kau".

The other gloss "you [imperative] observe the abstract-nature-of the three mice running" makes little sense to me since I don't think there's anything very abstract about three mice running.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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