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If yes, then you only need 'da'; if no,then you need a whole sentence, and the 'a'oi' snippet is not a recognized sentence, I think. ________________________________ From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 3:49:12 PM Subject: Re: [lojban] Time for the perenial other-centric-.ui conversation Well obviously this is what I'd be yelling WHILE I was running into the room "bat a blazin' " ;) And the bit I was talking about earlier is that vlasisku says that it takes the preceding attitudinal (note that it is singular attitudinal). So I would read "mi viska do .ue da'oi la .remo. .ui" as "I see you" with you being surprised and me being happy On Nov 27, 2010 4:44 PM, "Remo Dentato" wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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Same old question: do you empathize with his surprise.&nb= sp; If yes, then you only need 'da'; if no,then you need a whole sentence, = and the 'a'oi' snippet is not a recognized sentence, I think.


From: Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gma= il.com>
To: lojban@g= ooglegroups.com
Sent: S= at, November 27, 2010 3:49:12 PM
S= ubject: Re: [lojban] Time for the perenial other-centric-.ui conversation

Well obviously this is what I'd be yelling WHILE I was running into the = room "bat a blazin' "  ;)

And the bit I was talking about earlier is that vlasisku says that it ta= kes the preceding attitudinal (note that it is singular attitudinal). = So I would read "mi viska do .ue da'oi la .remo. .ui" as "I see you" with = you being surprised and me being happy

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