From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxC32cbnBBoEI_7_nw@googlegroups.com Sat Nov 27 17:13:40 2010 Received: from mail-pv0-f189.google.com ([74.125.83.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PMVpg-00078f-5O; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 17:13:39 -0800 Received: by pvh1 with SMTP id 1sf1270346pvh.16 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 17:13:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=ZCyJ4sY4WROlBcuYawtqhhSKltGXml1NSRNROGoIYeE=; b=1wNMhKjBmCTgP57yRcQIcAz4OsKYQuLMNZqto0m3/DcneQ6q1anofZPW7eyZswRROp Og7bQdhF8MgmT8On1ZADs34p8xGySDx72tO33HC1TlHsDSoeEFdv5GnpXoPsYd5k4FUK yAkUdx6LwP8b8HDJ0CfXxpeLKqYFXuE8nksdo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=ib2kh8bRXESQfMbzm7mXRgekRa65WfyMrktl98X83MN1eDx25opjTVOCtkmUy9RwtZ RdifEXCGlfznbicMdS3HwEM6RbiJbzImciOnXY5z8fSF0ZHjEmqNX/zy1DPGyhOYB7hr 1I1ckgty13YhD+boiwXlk7fmvyKZJI4GfgFvY= Received: by 10.142.149.20 with SMTP id w20mr159369wfd.17.1290906807518; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 17:13:27 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.78.15 with SMTP id a15ls6199745wfb.2.p; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 17:13:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.136.17 with SMTP id j17mr2675866wfd.7.1290906806310; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 17:13:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.136.17 with SMTP id j17mr2675864wfd.7.1290906806253; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 17:13:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id p40si4075577wfc.6.2010.11.27.17.13.25; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 17:13:25 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.123; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Inhw+Jdt7z1D3BivGPfn2aw54OvUEJw5lAn/booRZkE= c=1 sm=0 a=1CGMMKYqQwIA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=nv95g3tqDWc4nV7n8UsA:9 a=jo1ADyab9f1i3gb4qJN-xuOvZQEA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:52765] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id D9/F7-13137-3BCA1FC4; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 01:13:25 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3027615715 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:13:22 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Time for the perenial other-centric-.ui conversation Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:13:16 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201011272013.19194.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 27 November 2010 16:17:04 Remo Dentato wrote: > I've not used {da'oi} yet but being of selma'o DOI I expect I'll use it > like: > > {mi viska da'oi .liuk. .ue } > > to indicate that you were surprise that I had seen you, and > > {mi viska doi .liuk. .ue } > > to indicate that I was surprised to see you. If "da'oi" is in selma'o DOI, does that make cmevla like "mada'oitik" invalid? Pierre -- Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.