From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCQpMvnBBoEapLeHQ@googlegroups.com Sun Nov 28 14:05:20 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PMpMy-00048J-Sz; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:05:20 -0800 Received: by wyb35 with SMTP id 35sf3073652wyb.16 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:05:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=j3UFQ/db6kxt6vHu4cYiEDw0vutLQIXjDUfBpmzGrOo=; b=AcRJp/mlUDg1r+C4r63Z+D2gfeXEySyFqz976VpEOARSAUT7aQ6LrC1vuA65fgaqKf mFHdc8yACRaN3vwLWMkgeoPpUQcQk7r1mcOOkJWHAvu2akVdqlZ63oAVIlpXLMcSiwFx bv3tTwg9aCcBisArhKH5VPexexRbbI/b430rc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Xm0UACz8n2ZCCkQBBZtf9z9R6m5SpIO3yQjs8eOEr+raAbg7Fu3KOgSIbP4LyhmYsB YQnINp5AQejPT83/6ahhbcgf+EXjCxBq1XxuK85g+bZ1aBeMbP0tpEC7HAyHzapNqVBh 6kY+IQDOeZzm1BMqjMLKWMw9xAIxMS1wnuhK8= Received: by 10.216.12.140 with SMTP id 12mr1150719wez.11.1290981904243; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:05:04 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.68.80 with SMTP id k58ls2096971wed.0.p; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:05:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.16.134 with SMTP id h6mr275540weh.13.1290981902523; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:05:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.16.134 with SMTP id h6mr275539weh.13.1290981902495; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:05:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wy0-f175.google.com (mail-wy0-f175.google.com [74.125.82.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id a52si501946wer.0.2010.11.28.14.05.01; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:05:01 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.175; Received: by wyb40 with SMTP id 40so3831281wyb.6 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:05:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.144.65 with SMTP id y1mr5097639wbu.199.1290981900934; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:05:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.138.16 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:05:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <466173.78231.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <659354.26852.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <466173.78231.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 19:05:00 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Time for the perenial other-centric-.ui conversation From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 6:26 PM, John E Clifford wro= te: > Saying something is meant as humor > but I am not amused is one of the most common moves in watching and criti= quing > tv shows, for one example, Saying *that something I'm saying* is meant as humor, not that something someone else has said was meant as humor. "zo'o" marks the speaker's speech, not someone else's speech. > and being ammused by something that was not meant to > be funny is a painful memory from both sides for most people. We are talking about being amused *by something you are saying*, not by something someone else has said. "zo'o" marks your own speech, not someone else's. > In the US at least surprise parties of the dark room-lights up-shout "sur= prise" > sort are common enough to be a recognized listing on incident reports: mu= rders, > beating, heart attacks, etc. (Ils sont fous ces am=E9ricains.) I can see a possible connection with heart attacks, but I'm not sure I see how it relates to murders and beatings. Is the person being surprised the murderer or the murdered one, and why? mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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