From lojban+bncCL-Ey5qiChCAsNDnBBoEV_2mIg@googlegroups.com Mon Nov 29 13:16:02 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PNB4j-00052p-Qw; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:16:02 -0800 Received: by ywh1 with SMTP id 1sf4214351ywh.16 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:15:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Cg309nPwaOyQkj15LUWaTTvsvSpPF/3dRWLj0EiXwDQ=; b=rOVKOCoSoHq8sF0KbU4zyqHisIKkE7SImzZWnmvOdzHmliCmRB5nU97W0YPN5pPFuF HGlJBBbarV5eMdH8Fy6OYxxUBRStzVGvMEZ7AuzL6EOkOO72hxEuk+ELd9pg+NYh20pl SenuFDTCFl5KCMlSECxyD1y0qg0DZIQQl3zlk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=zJVgmJl9VuoKQmnwJEWVV9BQ1qNKOjgyF3g+ser68uIXHpIefro+JpCPv6fPqYuSuz eAUcgQeLzpAwwCx4w4vq8G3vIk4lAX+98AijEpyvPQpdO0wNo9RiAndre5Rmgro4hFov GgfrocBs+ceQckC474juHFGvoo6J2KIZxrB+w= Received: by 10.150.73.35 with SMTP id v35mr697861yba.42.1291065344890; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:15:44 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.99.19 with SMTP id w19ls291264ybb.0.p; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:15:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.146.17 with SMTP id t17mr1686674ybd.58.1291065343981; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:15:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.146.17 with SMTP id t17mr1686673ybd.58.1291065343944; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:15:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gy0-f177.google.com (mail-gy0-f177.google.com [209.85.160.177]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id u10si924602yba.6.2010.11.29.13.15.42; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:15:42 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of craigbdaniel@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.177 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.177; Received: by mail-gy0-f177.google.com with SMTP id 4so2245073gyg.8 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:15:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.218.136 with SMTP id hq8mr1831086icb.287.1291065342752; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:15:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.196.198 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:15:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <659354.26852.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <604115.16202.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <752705.36302.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <822423.65423.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <605319.19000.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <433664.89554.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <906301.34622.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <306693.13766.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <144450.19864.qm@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <908664.96404.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:15:42 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Time for the perenial other-centric-.ui conversation From: Craig Daniel To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: craigbdaniel@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of craigbdaniel@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.177 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=craigbdaniel@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > Why do you keep reffering to Lojban as Logjam? He's not - he's referring to Lojban and its precursor, Loglan, in one breath, and making fun of the cat-herd of a mess that has been Loglan/Lojban history and culture from day one. And he was there, so he would know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.