From lojban+bncCIywt_XDCRDHtNDnBBoE_gwKIg@googlegroups.com Mon Nov 29 13:25:42 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PNBE9-0001CR-01; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:25:41 -0800 Received: by gyb11 with SMTP id 11sf4211556gyb.16 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:25:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:message-id:x-ymail-osg:received :x-mailer:references:date:from:subject:to:in-reply-to:mime-version :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=o3Ab6/AqPzFGNNnCRf8DADq6BQs9sGa6G+90N7xiiA0=; b=vLZdH2lcufRBD6O7vpSmECikzccIbulAvbFSet3eXknpgqkA1lmzBD1lQsKv4tEtXJ GDAdTr3nuA7C/yti/rCfBo2EOzns/bxiDuOdBKOLFnkk734HTcHDzJFCXK/FXnktLseK q6jdDFz9u8Tb8TbnR7VLeDsRDhVxjj1Nfu17k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:x-ymail-osg:x-mailer:references :date:from:subject:to:in-reply-to:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=OJDm6cR42djUmT0Oj50eyfYQIi0RqLFSWHSgG2L8UnBGs6pSJo9CWkRSo5LbHrQ0Pt QEohdVQQX/FPiKzc9v3egrMLs4ll92sbhjCsK204zu4zWOlKbFYOP+E2JPWb/GDUpCTE 4Yk7Ehgux022k2b5hwtmBj3sMbRXo48QAxUHs= Received: by 10.100.214.14 with SMTP id m14mr170359ang.4.1291065927724; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:25:27 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.100.231.3 with SMTP id d3ls1165517anh.7.p; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:25:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.106.20 with SMTP id e20mr969258anc.49.1291065926795; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:25:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.106.20 with SMTP id e20mr969256anc.49.1291065926776; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:25:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.118]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id f5si1208069anh.2.2010.11.29.13.25.25; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:25:25 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 68.142.199.118 as permitted sender) client-ip=68.142.199.118; Received: (qmail 7411 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Nov 2010 21:25:25 -0000 Message-ID: <203857.5435.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: LQSmSUMVM1l7Gnn66Kls7hxoyBnYcUuU2DxvZqMZRFLlDa2 IeoyGss0Y.ZDZP7YtDTOPqg.dhhrzK6vA767juMpqZ05WiEHeAn8LZ9c3yOs q_ZmTPdZ3SYY5hxY_iGWnSgVzV3ixggiepOICnxEaORYEwYBsxB2TWl9mi4o M2STH0rffR3UpySBGOQxI0LDkyOMaqjF1VO6uVkfs0lQyz6Annjo7XWSMbNO ASVpYzC4aKN8Ltr3fFoaKMYfpAcCihDhlCF9lc_IFWgK3E3mIadbXGCNGIMi FCLV_qhOOeakW1opdemlTTJnBU_P0cM81PES1DSKasPzPOlyFlwFyJihJcbq 5RETCDiV338ePoiKEo51sdHIUpXNm6o4xNw.Vppmc1sMvo_rC9bz0buv73Ro - Received: from [99.92.110.13] by web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:25:24 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/553 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <659354.26852.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <604115.16202.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <752705.36302.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <822423.65423.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <605319.19000.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <433664.89554.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <906301.34622.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <306693.13766.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <144450.19864.qm@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <908664.96404.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:25:24 -0800 (PST) From: John E Clifford Subject: Re: [lojban] Time for the perenial other-centric-.ui conversation To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 68.142.199.118 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Full marks (though I would like to think you found it funny as well). ----- Original Message ---- From: Craig Daniel To: lojban@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 3:15:42 PM Subject: Re: [lojban] Time for the perenial other-centric-.ui conversation On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > Why do you keep reffering to Lojban as Logjam? He's not - he's referring to Lojban and its precursor, Loglan, in one breath, and making fun of the cat-herd of a mess that has been Loglan/Lojban history and culture from day one. And he was there, so he would know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.