Well, 'to'i' would work pretty well, except in a text wit= h quotations which already has speaker assignment from the author. Th= ose need 'sei' since 'to'i' implies that the insertion is by someone other = than the author. On the other hand, 'sa'a' could probably be attached= to 'to' to get about the right effect (I haven't work through the various = meaning of "metalingistic" in that passage to be sure, however. = Note -- getting back to 'da'ai' for a moment, that the recommended way of = assigning emotions to a third party is using 'sei' and a predicate. M= uch more sensible.

From: Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 29, 2010 6:36:17 PM
= Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: = Why does sei work the way it does?

...Hmm. That's interesting, because {sei} has the "metalinguistic" thing bu= ilt into its definition, while TO is just a parenthesis, so it would seem i= ntuitively like they would have an underlying semantic difference. For exam= ple, it makes intuitive sense to use {sei} to say who is speaking in a pass= age, whereas it doesn't seem to make as much sense to use TO ... TOI to do = so, because they're (ostensibly) less specific. Though I suppose there coul= d be an attitudinal for "metalinguistic".

This may help. How would you translate the following in the least awkwa= rd way (short of rearranging, of course):
"I'm going", Alice said to Bob= , "to the store."
?

By what you're saying, it sounds like it woul= d be:
mi klama to'i la alis. cusku dei la bab. toi le zarci

mu'o mi'e latr= os.

2010/11/29 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> {sei} is more like {to} than {lo}, lindar.

You can always use "to" or "to'i" instead of "sei". The only reason SEI exists separate from TO is so that the terminator can almost
always be elided. As it is, "se'u" is practically never needed.
Allowing trailing sumti would mean that "se'u" would almost always be
needed. In that case, it wouldn't have made sense to introduce sei at
all, since there was already to. Semantically, sei and to are
basically the same.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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