From lojban+bncCK30vq5WEP2I0ucEGgR0vb3w@googlegroups.com Mon Nov 29 20:59:22 2010 Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PNIJC-0002wb-MD; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:59:22 -0800 Received: by pzk7 with SMTP id 7sf2058817pzk.16 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:59:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=Iq30YLTpTm/VRKnRErHgktZjipo/jbdQy09LmSvOSg4=; b=i4rAhCyEsu0HVJCq+91O93gNSqRTHto4JEP2VU43mDjgdlPT/RQfNKATOEJa8Xs1xr yhT6zgv8K6E05kE0ZWQzdbM/eROQ0AWWMA7vpmxU4iZipPGfw5kYWR52NI0FQFOx0ByK 47ZeGErsFrp2dCu0NQdqZMPzGawez9a5XSkWM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=rGegm+UJmUKBl9nRUYEr/nc5uV6u12Ut67ABcSeXHE1cWZerqr+oJZtJRlnVy4Xg4F jsH0fWGNyyG09GsJS6VQuT9k/HYzWrsUtJ5Sk+0LePN+jsJ5wpAJdBHoeHtVSO8cB9w2 Oqt/2mR6XZoXqUs78ItH6nPm2kQGPyedO/3AM= Received: by 10.142.151.42 with SMTP id y42mr263296wfd.46.1291093117809; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:58:37 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.78.15 with SMTP id a15ls9448184wfb.2.p; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:58:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.232.19 with SMTP id e19mr4483867wfh.36.1291093115827; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:58:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.232.19 with SMTP id e19mr4483866wfh.36.1291093115793; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:58:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id y8si6986426wfj.5.2010.11.29.20.58.35; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:58:35 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PNIIV-0002vy-58 for lojban@googlegroups.com; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:58:35 -0800 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:58:35 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Time for the perenial other-centric-.ui conversation Message-ID: <20101130045834.GA27025@digitalkingdom.org> References: <605319.19000.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <433664.89554.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <906301.34622.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <306693.13766.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:09:05PM -0500, Oren wrote: > This lengthy conversation seems like a stark gap in interpretation > of a moderately used word. Doesn't LLC have some like, official > example sentence that explains the usage of a word? Isn't this > what those cmavo definitions are for? It seems really silly to > watch this go back and forth without any examples. You mean LLG. I haven't been paying attention, because PC (John Clifford) was involved, and that's just how I roll. I had been under the impression they were arguing over the semantics of UI in general, and potentially new UI in particular. If they're arguing over the meaning of particular word, which one? -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.